I know I should be concentrating on the World Series...

[Leonard Tose]

But I keep having these dreams of adding Manny Ramirez to the outfield next year. Imagine his right-handed bat next to Howard and Utley. It gives me chills.

I'd offer him 4 years, $80 million. I'd say no to 5. But this guy is the most fearsome bat in baseball today. Boras is going to have a field day with him.

[sfphillyfan]

He made a ton of money in the last two weeks.

[stevemc]

no way you offer him more than 3 years. He'll be 37 near the beginning of next season. By year 4 he'll be playing at 40. Do you really think he'll be worth the $20MM/season at that stage?

I'd spend the $ on a pitcher before blowing $20MM/season on a position player.

[Leonard Tose]

no way you offer him more than 3 years. He'll be 37 near the beginning of next season. By year 4 he'll be playing at 40. Do you really think he'll be worth the $20MM/season at that stage?

I'd spend the $ on a pitcher before blowing $20MM/season on a position player.


Somebody will offer him 5 years, I'm pretty convinced of that. Three years won't get you a seat at the Ramirez negotiation table, IMO.

I think this guy will keep hitting for three or four years. He's getting better as a hitter, IMO.

[stevemc]

I hear you LT and that "someone" is an idiot.

Here are the top 50 salaies for this year:

Top 50 salaries
No. Player/Team Salary
1. Alex Rodriguez, NYY $28,000,000
2. Jason Giambi, NYY $23,428,571
3. Derek Jeter, NYY $21,600,000
4. Manny Ramirez, BOS $18,929,923
5. Carlos Beltran, NYM $18,622,810
6. Ichiro Suzuki, SEA $17,102,149
7. Johan Santana, NYM $16,984,216
8. Todd Helton, COL $16,600,000
9. Torii Hunter, ANA $16,500,000
10t. Bobby Abreu, NYY $16,000,000
10t. Carlos Delgado, NYM $16,000,000
10t. Andy Pettitte, NYY $16,000,000
10t. Carlos Zambrano, CHC $16,000,000
14. Mike Hampton, ATL $15,975,185
15. Magglio Ordonez, DET $15,768,175
16. Rafael Furcal, LA $15,730,196
17. Jim Thome, CHW $15,666,667
18t. Vladimir Guerrero, ANA $15,500,000
18t. Tim Hudson, ATL $15,500,000
18t. Richie Sexson, SEA $15,500,000
21. Aramis Ramirez, CHC $15,250,000
22. Jason Schmidt, LA $15,217,401
23. Randy Johnson, ARI $15,100,546
24. Mariano Rivera, NYY $15,000,000
25. Miguel Tejada, HOU $14,811,415
26. Andruw Jones, LA $14,726,911
27t. Lance Berkman, HOU $14,500,000
27t. Barry Zito, SF $14,500,000
29. Pat Burrell, PHI $14,250,000
30t. Mark Buehrle, CHW $14,000,000
30t. J.D. Drew, BOS $14,000,000
30t. John Smoltz, ATL $14,000,000
30t. Alfonso Soriano, CHC $14,000,000
34. Albert Pujols, STL $13,870,950
35. Troy Glaus, STL $13,500,000
36. Adrian Beltre, SEA $13,400,000
37. Gary Sheffield, DET $13,326,306
38. Derrek Lee, CHC $13,250,000
39. A.J. Burnett, TOR $13,200,000
40. Jorge Posada, NYY $13,100,000
41t. Johnny Damon, NYY $13,000,000
41t. Adam Dunn, CIN $13,000,000
41t. Hideki Matsui, NYY $13,000,000
41t. David Ortiz, BOS $13,000,000
41t. Roy Oswalt, HOU $13,000,000
46. Garret Anderson, ANA $12,600,000
47. Frank Thomas, TOR $12,560,000
48t. Carlos Lee, HOU $12,500,000
48t. Mike Lowell, BOS $12,500,000
48t. Mark Teixeira, ATL $12,500,000


1 player (Pat Burrell) is in the WS.
6 players made it to the LCS.

You are better off reinvesting in your squad, scouting and draft picks. Burrell is on there because we reinvested in him. The big free agent signings are a real crap shoot.

[Leonard Tose]

I hear you LT and that "someone" is an idiot.

Here are the top 50 salaies for this year:

Top 50 salaries
No. Player/Team Salary
1. Alex Rodriguez, NYY $28,000,000
2. Jason Giambi, NYY $23,428,571
3. Derek Jeter, NYY $21,600,000
4. Manny Ramirez, BOS $18,929,923
5. Carlos Beltran, NYM $18,622,810
6. Ichiro Suzuki, SEA $17,102,149
7. Johan Santana, NYM $16,984,216
8. Todd Helton, COL $16,600,000
9. Torii Hunter, ANA $16,500,000
10t. Bobby Abreu, NYY $16,000,000
10t. Carlos Delgado, NYM $16,000,000
10t. Andy Pettitte, NYY $16,000,000
10t. Carlos Zambrano, CHC $16,000,000
14. Mike Hampton, ATL $15,975,185
15. Magglio Ordonez, DET $15,768,175
16. Rafael Furcal, LA $15,730,196
17. Jim Thome, CHW $15,666,667
18t. Vladimir Guerrero, ANA $15,500,000
18t. Tim Hudson, ATL $15,500,000
18t. Richie Sexson, SEA $15,500,000
21. Aramis Ramirez, CHC $15,250,000
22. Jason Schmidt, LA $15,217,401
23. Randy Johnson, ARI $15,100,546
24. Mariano Rivera, NYY $15,000,000
25. Miguel Tejada, HOU $14,811,415
26. Andruw Jones, LA $14,726,911
27t. Lance Berkman, HOU $14,500,000
27t. Barry Zito, SF $14,500,000
29. Pat Burrell, PHI $14,250,000
30t. Mark Buehrle, CHW $14,000,000
30t. J.D. Drew, BOS $14,000,000
30t. John Smoltz, ATL $14,000,000
30t. Alfonso Soriano, CHC $14,000,000
34. Albert Pujols, STL $13,870,950
35. Troy Glaus, STL $13,500,000
36. Adrian Beltre, SEA $13,400,000
37. Gary Sheffield, DET $13,326,306
38. Derrek Lee, CHC $13,250,000
39. A.J. Burnett, TOR $13,200,000
40. Jorge Posada, NYY $13,100,000
41t. Johnny Damon, NYY $13,000,000
41t. Adam Dunn, CIN $13,000,000
41t. Hideki Matsui, NYY $13,000,000
41t. David Ortiz, BOS $13,000,000
41t. Roy Oswalt, HOU $13,000,000
46. Garret Anderson, ANA $12,600,000
47. Frank Thomas, TOR $12,560,000
48t. Carlos Lee, HOU $12,500,000
48t. Mike Lowell, BOS $12,500,000
48t. Mark Teixeira, ATL $12,500,000


1 player (Pat Burrell) is in the WS.
6 players made it to the LCS.

You are better off reinvesting in your squad, scouting and draft picks. Burrell is on there because we reinvested in him. The big free agent signings are a real crap shoot.


I agree, but they will need to add a formidable right-handed bat this offseason if they want to keep taking shots at the WS. No right-handed bat is more formidable than Manny Ramirez.

They're already paying Burrell 14m this year. No great stretch to add another 6m to that tally to get a far, far superior hitter.

I think the pitching will be OK with Hamels, Myers, Blanton and hopefully Carrasco and Happ next year if no Moyer. Certainly good enough with a frightening lineup that has Rollins, Howard, Utley, Ramirez.

I'd rather they plug Happ in for Moyer than give Moyer 6m or so for another year. Happ is good. They could use that 6m, add it to Burrell's tab and come up with the 20m they'd need for Manny.

[taz]

I'd be shocked if the Phillies went after ANY name free agent this offseason.

[sfphillyfan]

I'd be shocked if the Phillies went after ANY name free agent this offseason.

Me too. From a FO standpoint, next year is gonna be sold out almost every game from the jump.

[tinopuno]

I'd be shocked if the Phillies went after ANY name free agent this offseason.

Me too. From a FO standpoint, next year is gonna be sold out almost every game from the jump.

Even if the FO wanted to spend, the Phillies' invisible ownership will veto any large outlays of cash. As you so accurately
point out, they will continue to get the only thing that increases their heart rate...a steady diet of sell outs.

[NoDakIggle`]

Definitely a feared hitter but, and it is just me, I don't think I go after Manny Ramirez. Not a big fan

[BIGPHILLY]

Brad Lidge was our big free agent signing. (Cold water)