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    I really have no confidence in this guy. I think he was highly overrated for years as an o-line coach and am not expecting him to shine on the defensive side of the ball, either.

    Think about that Eagle offensive line over the years. This is a team that has thrown the ball 65 percent of the time, sometimes more in crucial situations. With that kind of passing emphasis, you would think that they would have adoped the Howard Mudd approach a long time ago. Even if they couldn't hire Howard, they could have looked for someone like him, maybe a protoge.

    Instead, we had Castillo, who always favored big, plodding road graders who fit the Eagle philosophy of offense like a square peg in a round hole. So instead of Jahri Evans, the Eagles would draft guys like MJG.

    For years, I wondered why they would plug these big guys in and never make the best use of their talent. Who was to blame for that? Was it Big Red for not adjusting his offensive scheme to fit the talent of his o-line? Or Castillo for not recognizing the kind of talent he needed to operate with in a pass-first environment? Probably some of both, IMO. I think Castillo has always been one of Big Red's blind spots.

    I am very interested to see how this o-line executes this year. They moved out some of the plodders in the offseason -- MJG and Cole. Mudd is moving out some of the remaining plodders, the McGlynns and the Jacksons.

    And surprise, surprise -- look who they brought in. Reggie Wells, buried last year by Castillo. I'm not expecting this to happen, but what if Mudd makes him a useful player? That's a damning indictment of Castillo, IMO.

    I don't get why this guy has been able to stay with the Eagles, pretty much for life. He's been here since Ray Rhodes. How does that happen? He's practically a civil servant at this point.

    Castillo has a lot of talent on this defense and I hope they thrive in spite of him. It's possible. But I'm not expecting much from him. And if the o-line takes a big step forward this year, I'm going to be wondering even more.
    Last edited by Leonard Tose; 08-22-2011, 11:36 AM.
    Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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    " I think Castillo has always been one of Big Red's blind spots."

    You mean like Reno Mahe?

    Look, I don't think it is damning of Castillo for the reasons you brig up. It just means that Mudd's scheme and requirements for his scheme are different that Juan's. To me, you judge Castillo's performance based on how his lines did over the years, period. And that can be debated. Bottom line with me is, Runyan and Thomas. Those two excellent, excellent players are the primary reason that our Oline was as good as it was for many years. Last year, they were NOT good. This year....gonna be a challenge because Mudd is pretty much having to start from scratch. I look forward to making that comparison.

    As for Castillo as a defensive coordinator, I have made my concerns about that well known. He has no experiences as a coordinator of ANY kind, offensive or defensive. He has no experience working on the defensive side of the ball in this league. I look at the Castillo experiment in much the same way I do the Mathews experiment....we have handed a role to someone who has not earned it based on performance, nor experience, and it has a high probability of blowing up in our faces.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Leonard Tose View Post
      And surprise, surprise -- look who they brought in. Reggie Wells, buried last year by Castillo. I'm not expecting this to happen, but what if Mudd makes him a useful player? That's a damning indictment of Castillo, IMO.
      Don't know why that would be an indictment. McGlynn and Jackson were useful players under Castillo, but if Mudd buries them, is that an indictment of Mudd? Different philosophy, wants a different type of player -- not really an indictment either way. We'll see what the end results are.

      But yes, the defensive coordinator experiment is enough to make everyone nervous. It will be a few games at least before we have a real indication. There are lots of aspects to that job; it may take a while to see how he truly handles them (can he adjust after bad games, adjust in-game, deal with the press well, etc.). But we're not about to change DCs at this point, so... we just have to hope.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FairOaks View Post
        Don't know why that would be an indictment. McGlynn and Jackson were useful players under Castillo, but if Mudd buries them, is that an indictment of Mudd? Different philosophy, wants a different type of player -- not really an indictment either way. We'll see what the end results are.

        But yes, the defensive coordinator experiment is enough to make everyone nervous. It will be a few games at least before we have a real indication. There are lots of aspects to that job; it may take a while to see how he truly handles them (can he adjust after bad games, adjust in-game, deal with the press well, etc.). But we're not about to change DCs at this point, so... we just have to hope.

        Fair point about Wells.
        Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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        • #5
          Didinger has a good point in the story at the link below about Castillo and the defense, and I think it's analogous to the square peg in a round hole for all of these years with the Eagle offensive line.

          In essence, Didinger says that the Eagles aren't doing the undersized Matthews any favors with the Wide 9, which leaves big gaps in the middle of the field and lets interior o-linemen hit the second level quickly.

          It's the same issue with the Castillo o-line: the scheme not fitting the players. Matthews may have excellent football instincts. But he's just not going to be able to operate in this scheme where the defensive tackles aren't keeping him clean, IMO. And Castillo seems unable or unwilling to recognize that at this point.

          That's been one of my chief frustrations with the Reid tenure throughout. Big Red always wants to do things his way, unlike a guy like Belicheck, who will adapt his scheme to fit the talent he has available.

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          • #6
            Good points all around, LT! I too feel that Castillo is way overrated. He has been drawing accolades for our offensive line, which has been merely adequate all these years. At this point, I have little faith in him as a DC, but am hoping that I am proven wrong.

            The square peg in a round hole is a perfect analogy for how we have tried to fit our plodding linemen into a passing scheme for which they were ill-suited. Now, we are trying to do the same thing with our coaches. Basically, I think Andy saw the opportunity to bring in Mudd, who knows what he is doing in such a scheme, and was reluctant to release Castillo, who has been a loyal servant. So, he dropped McDermott, who wasn't working out as DC, and handed the job to Castillo.

            If the defense is botched, especially with the talent that we have brought in, a great opportunity for success will have been squandered and Reid and Castillo should both be held accountable.
            "Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Joe Theismann



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            • #7
              Remember in school when teachers called out sick and the PE teacher was teaching your social studies class?

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              • #8
                Ahhh, I loved those days, Vin.

                But to go one further on Castillo, maybe he is a guy that can make the switch to defense, but his switch was not simply going from offense to defense, but also making a significant move up to coordinator. If Andy wanted to give Juan his wish and move him to defense, fine, take him from being an offensive position coach to being a defensive position coach. Or perhaps making him an assistant DC in some capacity. But this move by Reid is totally irresponsible and WAAAAAY too risky in a team with our aspirations.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FRESH View Post
                  Ahhh, I loved those days, Vin.

                  But to go one further on Castillo, maybe he is a guy that can make the switch to defense, but his switch was not simply going from offense to defense, but also making a significant move up to coordinator. If Andy wanted to give Juan his wish and move him to defense, fine, take him from being an offensive position coach to being a defensive position coach. Or perhaps making him an assistant DC in some capacity. But this move by Reid is totally irresponsible and WAAAAAY too risky in a team with our aspirations.

                  As someone who gets easily bored in my career, I know the exact feeling of "well, I can certainly do that type of job!" But I also wouldn't expect to get switched from revenue director to VP of design. Which essentially is what you're describing for Castillo.

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                  • #10
                    People doubted Roseman, he's not qualified, he never played football, he has no experience, he is a dork and on and on....

                    People doubted Reid when he was hired, he's only been a QB coach, never been an OC or DC, is overrated since he was on such a great staff, never coached in a big school college and on and on....

                    People doubted MM when he was brought in as our OC, he is a moron, he does not know whats he doing, he is a stooge for Reid, he does not know how to develop talent and on and on....

                    People doubted when Reid kept Harbaugh as ST coach, hired by Rhodes, coming off his first season, ST had been terrible for several seasons, bloodlines but little experience, young guy and on and on....

                    I could go on...its happened many times with new coaches or management personnel. I'm never sure if its due to our inherent pessimism as a fan base or our common history of feeling our teams try to manipulate us (even when they don't) or a general suspicion born of being close, but falling short or the desire to be "right" ahead of the crowd...but the majority of the time during this Eagles regime these things have panned out when given the proper time to see what they actually do (versus what they say) and the results on the field.

                    As I said in an earlier thread on Castillo, I think we're going to have evaluate all season and see where we stand at the end. Even more so this year its a work in progress with any new coach due to the practice time missed and the condensed nature of TC and the preseason. There are alot of new faces and also young guys battling for roles mixed in with the vets who have been here several years.

                    So far, we've had one good game and one bad game on defense under Castillo. There are definite issues that need work and also bright spots that have emerged. I predict its going to be similar as many other Eagles defenses who develop the chemistry & cohesion & execution as the season goes on. There are going to be ups and downs, but we'll make the playoffs and have every chance to grab the ring IMV.

                    Reid believes in people and their capacity to achieve. Castillo has performed very well during his tenure here again in a position he had never done before. Giving people chances to achieve and reach new levels of competence is a good trait in a leader. I trust Reid and Castillo and believe it will pan out for the good in the end.
                    Last edited by Vote for Kalas; 08-22-2011, 03:41 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Vote for Kalas View Post
                      People doubted Roseman, he's not qualified, he never played football, he has no experience, he is a dork and on and on....

                      People doubted Reid when he was hired, he's only been a QB coach, never been an OC or DC, is overrated since he was on such a great staff, never coached in a big school college and on and on....

                      People doubted MM when he was brought in as our OC, he is a moron, he does not know whats he doing, he is a stooge for Reid, he does not know how to develop talent and on and on....

                      People doubted when Reid kept Harbaugh as ST coach, hired by Rhodes, coming off his first season, ST had been terrible for several seasons, bloodlines but little experience, young guy and on and on....

                      I could go on...its happened many times with new coaches or management personnel. I'm never sure if its due to our inherent pessimism as a fan base or our common history of feeling our teams try to manipulate us (even when they don't) or a general suspicion born of being close, but falling short or the desire to be "right" ahead of the crowd...but the majority of the time during this Eagles regime these things have panned out when given the proper time to see what they actually do (versus what they say) and the results on the field.

                      As I said in an earlier thread on Castillo, I think we're going to have evaluate all season and see where we stand at the end. Even more so this year its a work in progress with any new coach due to the practice time missed and the condensed nature of TC and the preseason. There are alot of new faces and also young guys battling for roles mixed in with the vets who have been here several years.

                      So far, we've had one good game and one bad game on defense under Castillo. There are definite issues that need work and also bright spots that have emerged. I predict its going to be similar as many other Eagles defenses who develop the chemistry & cohesion & execution as the season goes on. There are going to be ups and downs, but we'll make the playoffs and have every chance to grab the ring IMV.

                      Reid believes in people and their capacity to achieve. Castillo has performed very well during his tenure here again in a position he had never done before. Giving people chances to achieve and reach new levels of competence is a good trait in a leader. I trust Reid and Castillo and believe it will pan out for the good in the end.

                      Reid came in with nowhere to go but up for this franchise. Marty took over as OC, be we all knew that Andy himself had a lot of involvement with the O, so no huge risk there. You could go on and on, and I could go on and on with risky coaching and player assignments like McDermott and Segrest(just to be recent) that did NOT work out. Want to go there? No need to bury ourselves in that much crap. Point is, this is a big risk at a time we should NOT be taking it, and with no prior evidence that makes it a good risk.
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                      • #12
                        This is completely revisionist about Howie. Nobody questioned Roseman's ability to manage the cap, wheel and deal, run operations. Everyone was/is concerned whether Howie and Banner were stepping too far into the talent evaluation role that should be performed by football guys.

                        At this point, it's yet to be proven that Roseman is a success at evaluating talent, if indeed he's dipping into that role. Personally, I don't think any non-football guy should be in charge of talent evaluation. The accountant at the Philadelphia Orchestra doesn't pick the musicians. Howie shouldn't be allowed to pick our players.

                        If Reid is saying "I want that player" and Howie's job is to get that player for the cheapest price ($ or draft picks) as possible, then good. That's how I want this team to work.

                        But if Howie and Banner are saying "We think Casey Matthews is just as good and cheaper than any guy you like, Andy", then no. That's a recipe for disaster.

                        I wouldn't say Howie is a successful GM yet. That takes years to evaluate. Hey, even Hendry looked like a genius early on.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Vote for Kalas View Post
                          People doubted Roseman, he's not qualified, he never played football, he has no experience, he is a dork and on and on....

                          People doubted Reid when he was hired, he's only been a QB coach, never been an OC or DC, is overrated since he was on such a great staff, never coached in a big school college and on and on....

                          People doubted MM when he was brought in as our OC, he is a moron, he does not know whats he doing, he is a stooge for Reid, he does not know how to develop talent and on and on....

                          People doubted when Reid kept Harbaugh as ST coach, hired by Rhodes, coming off his first season, ST had been terrible for several seasons, bloodlines but little experience, young guy and on and on....

                          I could go on...its happened many times with new coaches or management personnel. I'm never sure if its due to our inherent pessimism as a fan base or our common history of feeling our teams try to manipulate us (even when they don't) or a general suspicion born of being close, but falling short or the desire to be "right" ahead of the crowd...but the majority of the time during this Eagles regime these things have panned out when given the proper time to see what they actually do (versus what they say) and the results on the field.

                          As I said in an earlier thread on Castillo, I think we're going to have evaluate all season and see where we stand at the end. Even more so this year its a work in progress with any new coach due to the practice time missed and the condensed nature of TC and the preseason. There are alot of new faces and also young guys battling for roles mixed in with the vets who have been here several years.

                          So far, we've had one good game and one bad game on defense under Castillo. There are definite issues that need work and also bright spots that have emerged. I predict its going to be similar as many other Eagles defenses who develop the chemistry & cohesion & execution as the season goes on. There are going to be ups and downs, but we'll make the playoffs and have every chance to grab the ring IMV.

                          Reid believes in people and their capacity to achieve. Castillo has performed very well during his tenure here again in a position he had never done before. Giving people chances to achieve and reach new levels of competence is a good trait in a leader. I trust Reid and Castillo and believe it will pan out for the good in the end.

                          Of course, VFK. I recognize that it's early and Castillo can silence the doubters, of which I am one.

                          That said, people doubted Rory Segrest, and he did, in fact, completely suck at his job. So did Sean McDermott.

                          Until you prove it, there are going to be doubters. With regards to Castillo, I just am not a believer. I think he's part of the woodwork in Eagle land and it's just accepted lore that he was a great o-line coach. I am not so certain about that.
                          Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sfphillyfan View Post
                            This is completely revisionist about Howie. Nobody questioned Roseman's ability to manage the cap, wheel and deal, run operations. Everyone was/is concerned whether Howie and Banner were stepping too far into the talent evaluation role that should be performed by football guys.

                            At this point, it's yet to be proven that Roseman is a success at evaluating talent, if indeed he's dipping into that role. Personally, I don't think any non-football guy should be in charge of talent evaluation. The accountant at the Philadelphia Orchestra doesn't pick the musicians. Howie shouldn't be allowed to pick our players.

                            If Reid is saying "I want that player" and Howie's job is to get that player for the cheapest price ($ or draft picks) as possible, then good. That's how I want this team to work.

                            But if Howie and Banner are saying "We think Casey Matthews is just as good and cheaper than any guy you like, Andy", then no. That's a recipe for disaster.

                            I wouldn't say Howie is a successful GM yet. That takes years to evaluate. Hey, even Hendry looked like a genius early on.

                            Vin, I agree that Howie and Joe should not be buying the groceries. But that's how the Eagles have decided to structure it. They all seem to have significant input.

                            Now, I really don't think Howie and Banner would say "take Casey Matthews because he's cheap." I've never bought into the cheap argument and I certainly don't here.

                            They just prioritize certain positions and have never been interested in spending at others. They certainly spend money at DE and CB.
                            Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                            • #15
                              Forget about the cheap thing although I did say just as good. And forget about position of LB. Any hint of "We think you should take X player over Y player" from Howie and Banner is bad news. I'm not sure Reid is the greatest talent evaluator but I'd take his opinion 1000x over Howie Banner's.

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