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  • Camp observers: Is Richmond outplaying Dhani Jones?

    That's some info I'm really jonesing for right now, pardon the pun.
    Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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    I'm hearing no.
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      Re: Camp observers: Is Richmond outplaying Dhani Jones?

      Originally posted by Leonard Tose
      That's some info I'm really jonesing for right now, pardon the pun.
      When I was in camp I had a talk with a TV guy who confided that the Birds are pulling for Richardson. He was given every oppertunity the 2 days that I was there. I don't know who's winning the battle though.
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        Richardson...
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        • #5
          Too bad they moved Gaither into the middle, from all accounts he's playing well and has picked up the defensive schemes better than any rookie since JJ has been here.

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          • #6
            I would think they'd move Gaither if he keeps performing. They say he's behind Simoneau & Trotter at MLB so if there is a possibility Gaither could contribute at SAM - I think they'd move him. Gaither is not big by any means and looks small in the middle from what I saw. I would think he could play the strong side.

            Richmond did not position himself well the day I was there when after tackling Westbrook out of bounds, Reid chewed him out.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stevemc
              I would think they'd move Gaither if he keeps performing. They say he's behind Simoneau & Trotter at MLB so if there is a possibility Gaither could contribute at SAM - I think they'd move him. Gaither is not big by any means and looks small in the middle from what I saw. I would think he could play the strong side.

              Richmond did not position himself well the day I was there when after tackling Westbrook out of bounds, Reid chewed him out.
              While Gaither was at Tennessee, he was a top special teams performer and played the run well, but I never thought that he was particularly good in pass coverage. He (and Tennessee generally) seemed to get burned a lot by tight ends in the SEC. I would be disappointed if he was moved to strongside linebacker.

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                Thanks for the feedback volbird!

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                • #9
                  As much as I want to see Richmond win the job, I actually think Jones will be fine.....just as long as that D line play like they are capable. It would definitely take the heat off. If we can get the 04 Dhani Jones, although that wasn't spectacular, it still was pretty good.

                  But it all starts up front. If that line plays well it will be a dominoe effect to the LBs and to the secondary.
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                  • #10
                    I don't think the '04 version of Dhani Jones was all that great either. I'd love for him to be replaced, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.
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                    • #11
                      Seems that Gaither is impressing. Doesn't sound like it would knock Jones out of the lineup though.


                      by Andy Schwartz
                      ComcastSportsNet.com

                      BETHLEHEM, Pa. – The Eagles’ first- and second-round picks, Brodrick Bunkley and Winston Justice, fell into their lap. (Though the former has yet to sign.)

                      Their third-round pick, Chris Gocong, graduated California State Polytechnic with a degree in engineering.

                      They traded up to draft their two fourth-round picks, Max Jean-Gilles and Jason Avant.

                      Their first fifth-round pick, Jeremy Bloom, is a former Olympic skier who has modeled for Tommy Hilfiger, Abercrombie and GQ.

                      So it’s no surprise that the Eagles’ second fifth-round pick in this year’s draft, linebacker Omar Gaither, has been under the radar.

                      Scratch that. He’s been barely a blip.

                      Until now.

                      On Monday, Gaither drilled Reno Mahe after Mahe caught a short pass in the flat. Earlier, Gaither intercepted Koy Detmer.

                      But that’s been a typical day for Gaither, who has quietly emerged from under the shadow of the rest of his draft class.

                      “Omar is a playmaker – you can see that,” defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said. “Everyday it seems like he comes up with a big play. He’s still learning too, but I think of all of the rookies, he’s picked up things very well.

                      “Of all of the rookies that we’ve had here over the last four or five years that I can remember, he’s picked things up, for a linebacker, as well as anybody. He’s done a nice job.”

                      What’s more, Gaither is learning a new position – middle (MIKE) linebacker; he played strongside (SAM) linebacker at Tennessee. But Gaither’s already proven to be a quick study. He became the Vols’ starting SAM backer as a junior and recorded a career-high 92 tackles. As a senior he had 78 tackles, four sacks and four forced fumbles.

                      “[It’s a] major, major adjustment,” Gaither said. “I never took a live snap at MIKE until I got out here. It’s been a big adjustment, but it’s good for me. The more I can do for this team, the better off I’ll be.”

                      How has he learned so fast? Gaither does what most college students do: he crams.

                      “It’s staying up at night sometimes going over your plays when you need to be getting into bed – I think that’s the most important part,” he said.

                      How late?

                      “I’d rather not say. It’s been pretty late some nights, trying to go over the defense,” Gaither said. “Then you’ve got to tell people you can’t talk right now because you’re looking over your playbook. But that’s just how it is, and I understand that.”

                      It’s not hard to see why the Eagles are trying Gaither at MIKE. They have four linebackers competing on the strongside: Dhani Jones, Greg Richmond, Dedrick Roper and rookie Chris Gocong, who was selected two rounds before Gaither.

                      Second-year pro Matt McCoy, a second-round pick last year, and veteran Shawn Barber are the weakside linebackers.

                      Gaither has his own theory as for why he’s in the middle.

                      “I don’t know. I guess it’s because of my loud mouth,” he said. “I’m good at making plays, calling plays and learning defenses.

                      Gaither’s demonstrative demeanor gives him something in common with one of his teachers, starting middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter

                      “It’s great,” Gaither said. “I knew he was a good linebacker before I got here, but you never can tell until you see it first-hand. He does things that I just couldn’t imagine.”

                      The admiration is mutual.

                      “He’s picked everything up from Day 1. He’s smart,” Trotter said. “He’s made a lot of plays. He’s coming along very well. He’s looking very impressive.”

                      But Gaither knows he can’t emulate Trotter. While they’re both 6-foot-1, Trotter weighs 262 pounds – 27 more than Gaither.

                      “Every time he comes off the field, I’m asking him, ‘How are you doing that? What are you thinking?’ Gaither said. “He does a good job of telling me what he’s thinking, and he also tells me that I have to play my own game,” Gaither said. “We’re too different kind of linebackers. He’s a little bigger than me.”

                      Said Trotter: “You can’t compare a middle linebacker to me. There aren’t many guys in the league my size. … Sometimes he asks me how long did it take me to [take on] linemen the way I do, and I say, ‘Well, you can’t base my game off of your game. You’ve got try to do the best you can, do what the coaches ask you to do, but at the same time, you’ve got to play your game too.”

                      While his persona resembles Trotter’s, Gaither game might be closer to that of soft-spoken, second-string middle linebacker Mark Simoneau, who is 6-0, 245.

                      “Don’t get confused – Mark can get very vocal too at times,” Gaither said. “Trotter’s like that all of the time, and Mark is like that when he needs to. It’s great – I’m learning from two of the best MIKE linebackers in the NFL, so I couldn’t be in a better position.”
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                      • #12
                        Look, Jones is what he is - adequate. He looks above average when the players around him are good, and he looks below average when the players around him struggle. If someone blows him out of the water in camp I'd be OK with replacing him, but frankly I'm MUCH more concerned about our situation at WLB.

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