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  • Trump really did it this time

    What can I say? He might not even last out the year.
    "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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    All I can say is the same thing I tell everyone--- Stop worrying about what he sez--- only worry about what he DOES!

    So tired of all this rhetoric -- on both sides--- most is lies or "fake" from both sides--- all we seem to hear is from the EXTREMES on both the right and the left. So tiring, so sad, so frustrating!!!!!!

    I worry about actions.... not words!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
      What can I say? He might not even last out the year.
      This is a sad and troubling time for our country.

      A little earlier today Trump disbanded both his business advisory councils composed of some of the country's top
      business leaders. These were supposed to be the "smartest people" with whom he would surround himself. This was a
      transparent attempt to save face before they had ALL resigned.

      What video could he possibly have watched to claim that the Friday Night Nazi slogan chanting, Jew-baiting
      torch bearers were "very fine, innocent" people?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
        All I can say is the same thing I tell everyone--- Stop worrying about what he sez--- only worry about what he DOES!
        Apparently the wild eyed liberal CEOs of America's top corporations as well as the new left hippie leaders of our country's military disagree with you...words matter.

        What will it take?

        Sad!
        Last edited by tinopuno; 08-17-2017, 12:24 PM.

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        • #5
          I think the guy has some good ideas too MD and I have no doubt that he is not a racist in any sense of the word. On the other hand he simply does not come close to having the temperament needed to be President of the United States of America. I understand what he meant when he said "both sides were at fault" but I shouldn't have to read between the lines to do it and I shouldn't have to listen to a President who is so stubborn that he sinks himself further every time he opens his mouth. I keep telling myself that you don't have to like a guy for him to be President but enough is truly enough. I've pretty much had it with the guy. Of course I've had it with Clinton too. In fact I've had it with all of Washington so why in hell did I even start this thread???
          "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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          • #6
            Again--- Forget the rhetoric (sticks and stones crap) look at the plans, look at where we are and where we need to get to. Hate how the guy acts .... but I still think his vision is the best we have in today's world!

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            • #7
              OH and BTW---The Media sucks Donkey Balls in this country right now!!!! There is no responsible reporting from almost ANY source!!!!!!!!!!

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              • #8
                MD-- you know I wholeheartedly agree with your media take. It is exactly the same as mine. But I had a lot of thinking time while driving and I have to say he brings the majority of his problems on himself. He has no credibility from his words and actions.
                I agree with his take that there are troublemakers on both sides-- you know it takes two to tango. And I agree with his take on statues. These are historical and people aren't bright enough to understand that they don't have to be symbols of repression. They show our history (good and bad). They should be used as teaching points on where we have been, where we have come.
                But the manner in which he approaches stuff and his history of saying stupid s*** are roadblocks to success. He can say he is presidential all he wants but he doesn't act it. As you famously say watch what he does not what he says. Well he doesn't do presidential. He acts like, and wants people to think he is, a street level tough guy. Well presidents aren't street level tough guys. Presidents are above that. I don't want the guys I fish with, who are 70 year old tough guys , as president.
                He certainly doesn't have the congressional dems in his pocket and is losing repubs pretty damn fast. Unfortunately, I think he is becoming irrelevant in short order and that the only progress we will see in this term is progress that the republicans in congress can generate. Maybe someone will get through to him that he stands to have a brutal legacy and get him to change his ways. Let's hope so.
                Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
                Hope is not a strategy
                RIP

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                • #9
                  Eye candy is not what I want! I don't care if he doesn't fit the mold of "Presidential"... that isn't why he was elected. He wasn't a politician, isn't a politician, never will be a politician.

                  Everybody wants and expects him to suddenly do a 180... it ain't gonna happen.

                  I think, as I have said a million times, he is an ego maniac, a bully at times and personally I don't like him. But that is not what matters to me when I think about where this country is /was headed and why he did get elected!

                  His plans will make America great again.... and if his plans are not carried out, it will be, IMM, mostly on the media and the swamp--- both of whom would rather see him fail --- more than the want to see this country rally!

                  This country is broken --- and it needs to be fixed --- he is trying whereas the congress and the media just want more of the same crap!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                    Eye candy is not what I want! I don't care if he doesn't fit the mold of "Presidential"... that isn't why he was elected. He wasn't a politician, isn't a politician, never will be a politician.

                    Everybody wants and expects him to suddenly do a 180... it ain't gonna happen.

                    I think, as I have said a million times, he is an ego maniac, a bully at times and personally I don't like him. But that is not what matters to me when I think about where this country is /was headed and why he did get elected!

                    His plans will make America great again.... and if his plans are not carried out, it will be, IMM, mostly on the media and the swamp--- both of whom would rather see him fail --- more than the want to see this country rally!

                    This country is broken --- and it needs to be fixed --- he is trying whereas the congress and the media just want more of the same crap!
                    That's fine but he can't do that if all he does is create sideshows with outrageous behavior. That is all that he has accomplished so far. About the only thing that he has accomplished is creating chaos as best that I can tell. I don't need my President to be totally Presidential either, but this guy is so stubborn and immature that it's really getting ridiculous.
                    "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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                    • #11
                      Eh so be it. When I say presidential I am not talking about a mold. Act like you have been there before. When you score give the ball to the ref don't hubbub about how good you are. I recall a meeting many years ago. The AF did away with stripes on uniforms for deployed personnel. All of us sitting there had eight stripes on our sleeves and many were bemoaning the loss of the arm bumps. The argument-- how will people know who I am. My comment--act the part and troops will know. That is what he doesn't have. He has the vision but he doesn't have the skill to get it done and doesn't have the people to get it done.
                      Not having that is costing him his agenda. Not having that is costing the country because he has not accomplished one thing.
                      You have to know how to play the game. You can't walk into the hood and expect to make things happen without some top cover. You can't walk into DC and make things happen without knowing the game, without knowing who is who, without knowing who gets things done. All the geniuses he brought into his inner circle are going by the wayside and he wasted seven months with them. All the smart people he was going to put on committees have been disbanded.
                      We can scream media all we want but he isn't winning that battle. I think it can be won but I don't think his way will win it. All he will do is go home crying that the media didn't let me do what I wanted. He can scream about the swamp but Sessions, Coates, Pence, Price, et al are DC insiders; they are swamp people. Are they supposed to be working the hill? Are they the ones that are supposed to be getting legislation going? If so they ain't making it happen.
                      As I said he has the vision. He doesn't know how to get it done in Wash. This ain't the business world where you tell the underlings to go do it and everyone falls in line. For being a great negotiator we haven't made any progress. That is what irritates me.
                      Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
                      Hope is not a strategy
                      RIP

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                      • #12
                        If both you guys think that "nothing" has been done since he took office then I guess we no longer need to discuss this issue. I see plenty that has been changed, and there is still 7.5 years left. While so of these major issues seem to be at a standstill--- when taxes and infrastructure and other things come up --- they will get support and the will happen, IMM. 2018 is coming and people who voted Trump in know exactly who is to blame for the backlog-- and a whole new batch of Senators and congressmen will be fighting for those voters votes.

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                          • #14
                            Seriously MD I am curious what he has done. He has signed a bunch, and I mean a bunch, of executive orders which if I remember right he claimed was completely illegal when Obama was doing it. Legislatively the only bills have been rubber stamp things that happen every time a president changes. Things that have to be signed. Executive orders, as we have seen with both Obama and Trump are at the whim of the president. Whereas legislation is much harder to change. If we base it on executive orders I would say every president did a hell of a lot, including Obama and Jimmy Carter.
                            It is true that he appointed Gorsuch; an idea which I have no issue with. But I would argue that Gorsuch was appointed the day Mitch McConnell said that the senate would not entertain a nominee from Obama. Trump could have nominated Dick the Dog and he would have been appointed if he was republican. Trump did not change one vote on that nomination. Mitch McConnell did all of the lifting.
                            So I hear that he has done a lot but I just don't know what it is. Maybe that is just my ignorance at what happens but I really wonder what he has done.
                            I do agree with you however that Congress continues to be the sticking point in getting anything accomplished in this world. I also would like to believe 2018 will see a change in that body but I find the majority of people think their reps are doing all they can while every other state sent dumbasses to the congress. Thus we wind up with the same people
                            Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
                            Hope is not a strategy
                            RIP

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                            • #15
                              Well it looks like Trump decided to play with the dems and he will get a win or at least some progress on hurricane relief and debt ceiling lifting. Doesn't seem to play well with some in the senate though.
                              After getting rid of knuckleheads in the WH it appears he is learning how to play, or maybe make things happen in DC. It's only been a couple of weeks but tweets have mellowed. His words on Korea have mellowed. He visited two republican states to pressure their vulnerable dem senator to get on board with tax relief. I think one has to admit he is trying a new tact after getting spanked on healthcare. Is it Kelly or someone else I don't know but I think he is getting different advice. If congress gets a tax bill to him he will have a real good win. That will allow infrastructure, healthcare or whatever more movement.
                              Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
                              Hope is not a strategy
                              RIP

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