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  • An educated guess at some wrinkles Reid will use Sunday

    Dust of your videotapes of the Birds circa 2002-2003.

    Before Westbrook got hurt in the last regualr season game in 2003--Reid was on a roll of what was, IMO, his best playcalling of his career. That was the 3 headed monster year. After a brutal start and the Limbaugh crap, the Birds ripped off like 9 or 10 wins in a row.

    Playaction actually worked back then, because teams feared the run. And the most feared runner ws Buck, who had like 7 or 8 rushing TD's. Buck is back.

    Using ham and eggers at WR like Thrash, Pinkston and Peoples Chump, Reid found a way to SCHEME them open. He used alot of BUNCH formations, and pick plays.

    Here's what I see for Sunday. The talent at WR is MUCH better than 2002-2003. Baskett's big body is perfect for fades in the red zone, and to rub off CB's in pick plays for Reggie Brown and Stallworth.

    I also see STALLWORTH as the perfect guy to use in REVERSES, with his 4.3 speed. Remember pre-TO all the HB options, the WR gimmick plays, the reverse and misdirection stuff? It will come out of the closet.

    But it won't be all Big Red has in the tool box now. Now he can stretch the field DEEP with Brown who runs a legit 4.45, and LJ who runs 4.6 at 265. Plus Stallworth who is a true blazer. So Reid can run off the coverage underneath with 4 guys running free downfield, then hitting Westy underneath. So some TO era stuff can be used too.

    But at the goalline, I really like Schoebel and LJ and Brown and Baskett as height mismatches for teams.

    Finally, with the huge OL they should just physically dominate teams in the run game. This may be the biggest OL in NFL history, and that is no hyperbole. I mean Runyan and Tra are 6'7 or 6'8" each and run 330 to 350 or more, then Herremans is like 6'7" and 330, the CENTER run 330, and Andrews is always a biscuit away from 370. WOW. And then in special packages you get a 6"0" 350 lb. bowling ball as a FB.

    Lotta tools in the toolbox this year, just with some growing pains along the way with so many young-ins. Should be a really DIVERSE O this year, with Andy being able to gameplan pretty differently week to week, outpowering small teams up front like Indy, and throwing speed at big teams like Dallas.

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    there was a stretch for about a year in that time period where Reid particularly loved the fake handoff to the WR coming across the field in reverse fashion, followed by the run up the middle (a play first cooked up by the Rich Gannon-led Raiders that lost to the Bucs in the Supe).

    i saw that play dusted off a couple of times in preseason this year. With defenses respecting Stallworth's speed, we might see that play make a resurgence. It was trendy for a while, but got forgotten.

    i wonder if the Eagles continue to run that play-action, roll-the-pocket slightly to the right, then throw down the field number that has been Donovan's bread and butter for about two years now.

    spads has been talking shotgun throughout preseason -- i wonder if that's for real.
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    • #3
      I just hope AR mixes it up and keeps defenses guessing all year instead of fixating on subset of the offense. We have a lot of weapons, hopefully we'll use them all.

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      • #4
        You know guys, while the TO offense was really good, it was by all means focused on, you know, TO.

        I recall before TO that almost the entire offense got involved. Even Thrash, Pinkston, Mitchell, Westbrook, Bucky, Duce, Richie, Chad Lewis. Everyone, somehow, somewhat, did something good.

        After TO came here, and for the first half of the 2004 season, everything clicked around TO. He did most of the work, but got the ball (or got involved in a play) almost what, 50% of the time? I mean, technically, if your QB goes towards you almost half of the plays, you ARE going to make catches.

        But does it help the team?

        The running/passing ratio became unbalanced. The amount of plays directed towards TO was bad. The Eagles played perhaps their best two-game stretch in the playoffs WITHOUT TO, because everyone got on the mix. Sure, I don't think that TO playing would have resulted in Atlanta or Minnesota winning, but I am sure that the offense surprised a lot of people when it clicked so well in those games. Even with the lucky Mitchel TD (which was a fumble at the 5 yard line anyway) the offense clicked.

        I fully expect the offense to be at least much more creative to get yards and points. I expect them to do several tricks that have been out of Reid's playbook for a while, and I expect those tricks to result in several big plays during the season. We NEED those tricks. All defenses fear those plays, because they are the ones that result in big plays.

        Heck, we think the Steelers are conservative, but they are the ones that won several games with trick plays.
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        • #5
          JRJ, I wonder how much trickery they will try with Donte, having so little of the offense down. Maybe down the road, but I doubt we'll see much of anything like that on Sunday. Not to mention that I think we should be able to beat Houston straight up, head to head. Save the "wrinkles" for the Gints.
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          • #6
            another staple in the Reid offense at that time was the quick pass to Pinky and Thrash right at the line of scrimmage (especially on 3rd and 4) with the hope they could break it open.

            That never happened, but maybe with this group it could.
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            • #7
              I'm hoping we don't have to pull out a lot of plays for this victory. Let's save the reverses for a more formidable opponent.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mikes
                another staple in the Reid offense at that time was the quick pass to Pinky and Thrash right at the line of scrimmage (especially on 3rd and 4) with the hope they could break it open.

                That never happened, but maybe with this group it could.
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                • #9
                  NO NO NO. I never ever want to see that QOTP again.

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                  • #10
                    Now the QOTS. Might work???????
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                    • #11
                      Maybe, Fresh. I mean, Stallworth can break the occasional tackle. Pinky never broke a tackle in his life. I swear those QOTP never gained more than a half yard, ever.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leonard Tose
                        there was a stretch for about a year in that time period where Reid particularly loved the fake handoff to the WR coming across the field in reverse fashion, followed by the run up the middle (a play first cooked up by the Rich Gannon-led Raiders that lost to the Bucs in the Supe).

                        i saw that play dusted off a couple of times in preseason this year. With defenses respecting Stallworth's speed, we might see that play make a resurgence. It was trendy for a while, but got forgotten.
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                        spads has been talking shotgun throughout preseason -- i wonder if that's for real.
                        Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see Stallworth get the ball on the end-around a few times early in the season. It would be a good way to get the ball into his hands and let him make a play while he's still learning the playbook.

                        Also, I'm betting that we'll see a fair amount of shotgun this season. I always thought they stayed away from it because Fraley didn't snap very well...
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