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    When in the HISTORY OF FOOTBALL have injuries actually helped a team get better? Think about it. Darby gets hurt and Robinson and Graham play lights out. Sturgis gets hurt and a rookie comes in and wins a game with a kick that Sturgis couldn't make in his dreams. Hicks gets hurt and we find out that Jenkins is Superman and a supposed washed up linebacker Kendricks is still a stud. Smallwood gets hurt and we end up with a terrific rb in a trade. Sproles gets hurt and we find out that Clement is a future star. Peters gets hurt and we find out that we have had a starting LT on the bench all along. Our star QB gets hurt and our backup actually plays better than him in the Super bowl and outduels Brady. I would argue that the injuries actually helped our team more than hurt it and won us a Super bowl!
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    Did they help the team get better? Or were we a very deep team that didn't have much drop off from the starter to the backup. Or did we have a great coaching staff who figured out how to get the most of the talent that was available? You make your own luck.
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    • #3
      They didn't help the team get better. I think taz has it about right. The depth guys were not significantly worse than the starters. And the staff did the best job I have seen in Eagle history of using the guys properly (although I think Vermeil used his players better than a lot of other coaches). Foles has always had talent; his coaches didn't always use that talent. Kendrick has always had skill. Hell he showed it as a rookie. His coaches either didn't use him properly or maybe didn't motivate him properly but he had talent. Just like his brother. And the staff did a good job of evaluating talent when they picked up people like Elliot and didn't hesitate to pull the trigger when they say a good deal like the Ajayi trade. They really didn't need to trade for Ajayi as they had a pretty good stable of backs but the adage is that you never turn down talent if it is affordable.
      This super bowl ring was 100% a result of the coaching staff IMO. That same group of players doesn't win this with a different coaching staff
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      • #4
        You both make valid points but I respectfully disagree. The team seemed to not only keep the early season momentum but also gained it with each setback. Injuries seemed to fuel them and brought out even more effort to win. When they reached the playoffs I think that they won with raw emotion. In the long run it will help us. On Ajayi I think you are wrong ND. He hit the ground running when he first showed up and never stopped. One more injury helped this team in a big way too BTW. Aaron Rogers.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
          You both make valid points but I respectfully disagree. The team seemed to not only keep the early season momentum but also gained it with each setback. Injuries seemed to fuel them and brought out even more effort to win. When they reached the playoffs I think that they won with raw emotion. In the long run it will help us. On Ajayi I think you are wrong ND. He hit the ground running when he first showed up and never stopped. One more injury helped this team in a big way too BTW. Aaron Rogers.
          I am generally a hard science, show me the tangible evidence kind of guy. But there is also a small portion of my overall awareness that entertains the 'possibility' that there are forces at work that very occasionally influence events that are beyond our objective knowing. Assuming there's even a smidgen of truth to that hypothesis, it might be argued that the Bird's uncanny bad luck at times during the last 57 years wasn't just random. And if there's any validity to that line of thinking, maybe there was some 'balancing' going on this year.

          In any case, I'm still pinching myself...but not below the waist!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by NoDakIggle View Post
            They didn't help the team get better. I think taz has it about right. The depth guys were not significantly worse than the starters. And the staff did the best job I have seen in Eagle history of using the guys properly (although I think Vermeil used his players better than a lot of other coaches). Foles has always had talent; his coaches didn't always use that talent. Kendrick has always had skill. Hell he showed it as a rookie. His coaches either didn't use him properly or maybe didn't motivate him properly but he had talent. Just like his brother. And the staff did a good job of evaluating talent when they picked up people like Elliot and didn't hesitate to pull the trigger when they say a good deal like the Ajayi trade. They really didn't need to trade for Ajayi as they had a pretty good stable of backs but the adage is that you never turn down talent if it is affordable.
            This super bowl ring was 100% a result of the coaching staff IMO. That same group of players doesn't win this with a different coaching staff
            I mostly agree, but I certainly would not put a value at 100% of the Super Bowl ring on the coaches.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
              I mostly agree, but I certainly would not put a value at 100% of the Super Bowl ring on the coaches.
              We have a very good team, with great depth, and terrific coaches. It was a total team effort and I wouldn’t say that one group was more important than another. That was the beauty of it all.

              You could easily say that our same coaches couldn’t have won with another group of players of equal or better talent. It’s really a pointless argument.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rspurr View Post
                We have a very good team, with great depth, and terrific coaches. It was a total team effort and I wouldn’t say that one group was more important than another. That was the beauty of it all.

                You could easily say that our same coaches couldn’t have won with another group of players of equal or better talent. It’s really a pointless argument.
                I guess that I'm just saying that we sure found a lot of talent that we didn't know that we had. Isn't it wonderful!
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                • #9
                  Lucky in some ways..... Skillfully put together..... Executed by the players..... And orchestrated by the coaches.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                    Lucky in some ways..... Skillfully put together..... Executed by the players..... And orchestrated by the coaches.
                    And so hard to friekin do. The run that the Patriots are on is impossible. There really are no words to describe it. I don't think there's a chance in hell that it will ever be duplicated. I hope that the Lions finally get close at least. Those poor bastards have suffered even more than us. They're the last one of the originals not to do it. And to all of the rest of the NFL I've got two words for you---and they aren't "Let's Dance"!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                      And so hard to friekin do. The run that the Patriots are on is impossible. There really are no words to describe it. I don't think there's a chance in hell that it will ever be duplicated. I hope that the Lions finally get close at least. Those poor bastards have suffered even more than us. They're the last one of the originals not to do it. And to all of the rest of the NFL I've got two words for you---and they aren't "Let's Dance"!
                      As amazing (and cheating does help) the run Pats have been on does it say something about the AFC that NO ONE has been able to dethrone these guys? The NFC has been a revolving door of champions. Parity does reign supreme. Why not in the AFC?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RobLew65 View Post
                        As amazing (and cheating does help) the run Pats have been on does it say something about the AFC that NO ONE has been able to dethrone these guys? The NFC has been a revolving door of champions. Parity does reign supreme. Why not in the AFC?
                        Excellent point Rob! Not much competition over there, especially in the crap division that they play in.
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