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**Jukin** · 11-29-2007, 11:35 AM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Maybe I shouldn't be answering this question since I don't really want McNabb replaced - at least not in the next 13 months. I think McNabb is far and away the best QB the Eagles have had in the last 40 years and replacing him is not an easy task. His biggest draw back IMO is his inconsistent play and his lack of accuracy. The balls thrown behind players and at their feet is damned frustrating! I just don't understand why he hasn't been able to correct this problem over the years. He has every resource imaginable and all the time and motivation in the world. Bu every week we see him throw a couple of balls at the receivers feet then tap his chest letting them know it was his mistake not theirs. WTF? If he would correct this, I don't think anyone would be calling for AJ or Kolb.

**Eaglebreath** · 11-29-2007, 11:50 AM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

I wouldn't say that I want him replaced. I don't think we've seen enough of Feeley to know, one way or the other, if he is the better option. I'd like to see AJ this week, but if McNabb is deemed healthy enough to go, and Reid goes in that direction, I have no problem with it.

I definitely feel that we're at a crossroads at QB right now. If McNabb continues to improve, and plays good football from here on out, bring him back for next year, and try like hell in the offseason to improve the talent level on the team. If he continues to struggle, doesn't play well, or continues to get hit with injuries, I think you have to go in another direction next year.

It's a tough decision that you better damned site get right, and I'm not ready to make it just yet.

**Vote for Kalas** · 11-29-2007, 01:04 PM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Originally posted by Theo

Usually I hate hypothetical questions, but all this talk, as much as I can't stand it, got me thinking.

These last 4 or 5 games that McNabb will probably play will tell us all alot about him and the immediate future of the Birds and the QB position.

As a McNabb backer, if he were to go out and play poorly, and it was obvious it's not because of injury, I will probably admit it might be time to move on.

What interests me though, if McNabb goes out and plays really good football over the last month, and looks like he has regained 'it'..whatever 'it' is...what are going to be the thoughts of the many of you out there who want him replaced?

My guess:

Some will say trade him during the off-season with his value high and move onto Kolb with Feeley ready to step in if necessary...

Some will say McNabb was their choice all along, but they wanted to see how Feeley could do...

Some will say keep McNabb and see how next season goes, Kolb is not ready and Feeley is there if we need him due to another injury or ineffectiveness...

Some will say it is a fluke and that other parts of the team carried McNabb like they have his entire career...

Some will say trade McNabb and start Feeley until Kolb is ready...

Some will say trade McNabb because he still is not a good fit for the WCO, despite all his success, and he is not a good leader.

**MDFAN** · 11-29-2007, 01:07 PM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Originally posted by Eaglebreath

I wouldn't say that I want him replaced. I don't think we've seen enough of Feeley to know, one way or the other, if he is the better option. I'd like to see AJ this week, but if McNabb is deemed healthy enough to go, and Reid goes in that direction, I have no problem with it.

I definitely feel that we're at a crossroads at QB right now. If McNabb continues to improve, and plays good football from here on out, bring him back for next year, and try like hell in the offseason to improve the talent level on the team. If he continues to struggle, doesn't play well, or continues to get hit with injuries, I think you have to go in another direction next year.

It's a tough decision that you better damned site get right, and I'm not ready to make it just yet.

I mostly agree here. Good post!

Only part I mildly disagree with is(and that is probably on semantics) that next year you have to re-evaluate the big picture---- niot just go in another direction automatically.

**MDFAN** · 11-29-2007, 01:09 PM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Originally posted by Theo

Usually I hate hypothetical questions, but all this talk, as much as I can't stand it, got me thinking.

These last 4 or 5 games that McNabb will probably play will tell us all alot about him and the immediate future of the Birds and the QB position.

As a McNabb backer, if he were to go out and play poorly, and it was obvious it's not because of injury, I will probably admit it might be time to move on.

What interests me though, if McNabb goes out and plays really good football over the last month, and looks like he has regained 'it'..whatever 'it' is...what are going to be the thoughts of the many of you out there who want him replaced?

Doesn't apply to me cause I don't want him "automatically " replaced. But I do tend to agree with VFK's list.

**eaglefan55** · 11-29-2007, 01:21 PM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Originally posted by Theo

As a McNabb backer, if he were to go out and play poorly, and it was obvious it's not because of injury, I will probably admit it might be time to move on.

That's where I'm at. But If he plays well resulting in wins then we should at least try next season with him and then re evaluate after next season.

**BIGPHILLY** · 11-29-2007, 01:29 PM

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If McNabb takes us to the playoffs this year - I support bringing him back.

If he fumbles around and we end up 8-8 or worse - I think it's time to move on (Contingent on us getting a nice package for him).

**stocknowledge** · 11-29-2007, 02:21 PM

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Ditto BP's post.

**stevemc** · 11-30-2007, 11:01 AM

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It's a very subjective question when the parameters are "he comes back and plays really well and has "it" ". If "it" means leading the team on a playoff run (meaning a very successful December and they make the playoffs) then I will certainly swallow my enormouse ego & pride and say I was wrong. I have no problem doing it. I only want the team to win regardless of who is playing QB.

**Theo** · 11-30-2007, 11:36 AM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Originally posted by stevemc

It's a very subjective question when the parameters are "he comes back and plays really well and has "it" ". If "it" means leading the team on a playoff run (meaning a very successful December and they make the playoffs) then I will certainly swallow my enormouse ego & pride and say I was wrong. I have no problem doing it. I only want the team to win regardless of who is playing QB.

I don't necessarily mean a playoff appearance. He can still play well and them not get in for some different reasons....D plays bad, other teams get hot and nose us out etc...

He just comes back and plays 4 very good games where he starts looking like the pre injury McNabb.

I'm with you though. Whoever it is, I just want to win. But like Spads said ( am I really agreeing with Spads?) I just wish, since there is a QB controversy, that it could be done without McNabb getting bashed and disrespected. Not that anyone here has done that, but no doubt it's happened...radio, in the stadium, articles etc..

**MDFAN** · 11-30-2007, 11:40 AM

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"He just comes back and plays 4 very good games where he starts looking like the pre injury McNabb."

I based my answer on the above scenario.

**Foles4SB** · 11-30-2007, 03:03 PM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

I think the decision to replace Mcnabb has already been made. Barring some huge miracle in the next 4-5 weeks, I do believe he will be traded in the offseason. Comments from GCobb, some of the polls on the website for the Eagles, and a number of other things indicate to me that they are already preparing for his exit. If they thought he was injury prone coming into this season, and now he's injured again this year, with a different injury, I don't see how that makes them want him to come back. They drafted Kolb for a reason. If AJ plays real well, maybe he starts the year and plays a Pederson like role until Kolb comes in during 2008. Or maybe Kolb starts from the start.

The Eagles will save I believe 6.3 million dollars by trading/releasing Mcnabb.

**MDFAN** · 11-30-2007, 03:13 PM

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"I think the decision to replace Mcnabb has already been made."

With all possible due respect----- I think you're dead and totally wrong!

They don't operate via knee jerk reactions as fans do, they will carefully evaluate their entire business in the off season and make a thought out, reasoned decision --- a decision NOT based on the G Cobbs of the world and especially not "some of the polls on the website for the Eagles" as a basis for making that assessment.

**Foles4SB** · 11-30-2007, 03:51 PM

Re: Hypothetical question regarding McNabb...

Originally posted by MDFAN

"I think the decision to replace Mcnabb has already been made."

With all possible due respect----- I think you're dead and totally wrong!

They don't operate via knee jerk reactions as fans do, they will carefully evaluate their entire business in the off season and make a thought out, reasoned decision --- a decision NOT based on the G Cobbs of the world and especially not "some of the polls on the website for the Eagles" as a basis for making that assessment.

You are certainly entitled to think I am dead wrong. Maybe I am. But I don't think this is a knee jerk reaction. The team saw how the offense operated under Feeley the 1st time. They saw how it operated under Garcia last year, and how he lit a fire for the team. You know how the Eagles think about age and injuries. They let guys like Burgess, Trotter, Douglas, Emmons, Vincent, walk. They go out and draft Kevin Kolb, who what a surprise, is a perfect fit for the WCO. A guy who is smart but mainly is incredibly accurate on short throws. Pretty soon, the Eagles aren't going to want to pay 3 quarterbacks, and you know the way Banner thinks about 6.3 million he could save if Mcnabb was not the QB next year. If the team drafted Kolb and wanted to see how things played out this year with Donovan, they can't be too happy that not only has he not played well, but has yet another different injury, actually two injuries! And Feeley comes in again and the offense is run the way the coaches like to see it.

As for GCobb, he was right about Jabar Gaffney getting cut, and he was right about Jeremiah Trotter getting cut, and everyone ripped him for both suggestions before they happened. Cobb was right on the money. So I don't take everything he says with a grain of salt, I think there is often truth to it.