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  • (OT)My thoughts on the Imus incident!

    Things are slow on the board right now as we await the draft, so I hope the following rant won't be unacceptable. It is tangentially sports related.

    I've listened to Imus on and off for some years now and personally, I'm pleased that he's FINALLY been called for his shameless public bullying of people not been in a position to defend themselves.

    Imus, and especially Bernard McGuirk(sp?), can be quite funny at times and some of the satirical stuff they've done over the years has been quite creative. I have no problem with them going after self-important politicians and celebrities. To an extent, people who chose to enter the public arena are fair game, although even here, the Imus show has often crossed the line. But all to often, their humor is grossly mean spirited and at the expense of "little people" who have done nothing more than say "No" to some trifling request made by "His Highness". His arrogant sense of entitlement is seemingly without limits, as is his inclination to take on-air revenge on people who frustrate his petty whims. Anyone who has listened to the show for any lenght of time knows of what I speak.

    Imus has devolved over time, and his humor has grown less inventive and ingreasingly sordid and vulgar. Accordingly, I've listened to him less and less, and hadn't heard the show in some months when the Rutgers incident took place. It came as no surprise, as I've heard both he and Bernard say worse.

    For me, it's not even the issue of race as much as it is his generally callous disregard for people's feelings. Imus now defends himself by saying, "I'm a good person who did a bad thing." I'm not buying his appology. In this instance, he may actually regret what he said, but I think back to the countless times his cohorts have told him he'd gone too far, only for him to take the attitude, "Who cares if he/she/they don't like it. What can they do to me."


    For those who defend his behavior on the grounds of "free speech", have at it. Questions of civility and common decency aside, we are all free to say pretty much what we like. But we must also be prepared to take resposibility for what we say. Behavior has consequences, and when behavior occurs before an audience of millions, the consequences can increase dramatically.



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  • #2
    I am always preaching that America is too uptight and politically correct. However, in this case, things have gone too far.

    The comment was totallly uncalled for. Imus is not that stupid. To me, it is like he knew what he was doing and mearly testing his authority and power.

    At the same time, Jackson, Sharpton and the rest of the contingincy are certainly not going to miss an opportunity to make themselves stand out in public. They care more about themselves than the real victims (the Rutger's team).

    I feel really bad for the Rutger's ladies. The rest of them should all be put on a isolated island in the middle of the pacific together. Let them sort it out in private.

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    • #3
      I just don't care any more! I've had it with political correctness in this country, I've had it with the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world! They can say whatever they want without any ramafications whatsoever! Imus shouldn't of said what he did, but who takes what Don freakin Imus says seriously?? If you do you're an F'ing moron anyway. Rap music is on the radio and on tv all day long. Have you listened to that shit? That crap is acceptable but Imus gets crucified on national tv. Give me a damn break. Equality my ass!!
      Stand for the flag you assholes!

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      • #4
        Imus is a dope, Stern is a dope, Limbaugh is a dope, Sharpton is a dope Jackson may be head dope---- but the common thread with them all is that they all make a living at the trough of stirring shit up.

        (I guess I could add WIP in there as well, )

        My take has always gravitated toward the Jason Whitlock type of logic whenever I see these things come up, not the shock jocks and media whores or "Ho's" as it were more apropos in this case ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but hey that's just me..........

        http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

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        • #5
          I could care less about Imus or his ilk. He's a dope, making a dopey comment. Just like Coughlin with his Hitler remark a couple of weeks ago. I consider the souce, and forget about it.
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          • #6
            Wow. Good article by Whitlock, and he even used the word "apologist" in there somewhere.
            I don't even think it's about PC. I figure that Imus was being an ass on a public platform, and if he gets reamed for what he said, so what? I mean, really, he must've seen some backlash coming, else he's a fool.


            COMMENTARY
            Imus isn’t the real bad guy
            Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
            By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist

            Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.

            You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

            You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.

            Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

            The bigots win again.

            While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

            I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

            It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.

            Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.

            It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

            I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

            But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

            I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

            Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.

            Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.

            But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.

            In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?

            I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?

            When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.

            No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.
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            — Michael Strahan

            "No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us, we don’t care, we’re from Philly, F—-ing Philly, No one likes us, we don’t care!”
            - Jason Kelce with the best championship speech ever

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            • #7
              Question:

              If Howard Stern has been doing this for decades and he calls people the "N" word - why in the world does this shock people?

              Imus is a retard and this was stupid - but our society approves of this kind of crap and yells "FOUL" whenever it suits there agenda - but other than that it goes on everyday on radios across the Country.

              NOW Imus is wrong? What about Don and Mike? Howard Stern? I mean goodness gracious. People encourage our moral fabric to go to hell and shoot ratings of idiots like this and Stern through the roof and then act suprise when this comes out? What?
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              • #8
                Jason Whitlock is lights out.

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                • #9
                  BP, I don't quite put Don & Mike in the same boat with Stern and Imus. Just sayin'.......
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FRESH
                    BP, I don't quite put Don & Mike in the same boat with Stern and Imus. Just sayin'.......
                    I guess having having people call their own mothers whores on a daily basis isn't moral degradation of society? Ok.
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                    • #11
                      Whitlock pretty much nailed that one. Imus is a clown who is getting the biggest ratings boost his show has seen in a long time. He should be forgotten and left to wither. The real social issues are pretty clear and I think Whitlock did a good job of identifying them.
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                      • #12
                        Seriously:

                        My point is a fairly simple one and is narrowly defined. While his comments had an obvious racial flavor, that's not my issue. And I would agree that the "usual black suspects" and media lemmings have GROSSLY overblown the incident for their own selfish reasons.

                        My point is simply that Imus has been a shameless, unapologetic bully for years and I'm pleased to FINALLY see him grovel like the dog that he is.



                        Less Seriously:

                        As far as comparisons between Imus' verbal offenses and those of many "rappers", I offer a solution. The most offensive shock jocks and "rappers" would be assembled in a mixed group each month. One would be chosen randomly and then executed, as a subtle hint that society at large might appreciate it if they'd clean up their act.

                        I wonder how long it would take for that message to get through?



                        BTW who are Don and Mike?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tinopuno
                          Seriously:

                          My point is a fairly simple one and is narrowly defined. While his comments had an obvious racial flavor, that's not my issue. And I would agree that the "usual black suspects" and media lemmings have GROSSLY overblown the incident for their own selfish reasons.

                          My point is simply that Imus has been a shameless, unapologetic bully for years and I'm pleased to FINALLY see him grovel like the dog that he is.



                          Less Seriously:

                          As far as comparisons between Imus' verbal offenses and those of many "rappers", I offer a solution. The most offensive shock jocks and "rappers" would be assembled in a mixed group each month. One would be chosen randomly and then executed, as a subtle hint that society at large might appreciate it if they'd clean up their act.

                          I wonder how long it would take for that message to get through?



                          BTW who are Don and Mike?





                          The message would get through when they're all dead! Don and Mike have a show out of D.C. that I use to listen to regularly. They're pretty funny. IMO.
                          Stand for the flag you assholes!

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                          • #14
                            Don and Mike are in the altamore/DC market primarily.

                            And yeah, if you call in to say something stupid, or tell an idiotic joke, they make you admit that your mother lives in Hor-onto.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FRESH
                              Don and Mike are in the altamore/DC market primarily.

                              And yeah, if you call in to say something stupid, or tell an idiotic joke, they make you admit that your mother lives in Hor-onto.
                              That's a relief! I thought maybe #5 had joined Mike Quick in a gig to earn some extra coin.

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