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Old 04-23-2019, 09:41 PM   #11
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Dawk, if they go OT it will tell me they see Big V as dependable, flexible depth; nothing more. It will also tell me they don't see Malaita as anything more than depth. I can understand that and live with that but it will tell me something.
I also think fans see CBs as future safeties more than coaches do. Personally I think it is too early to be thinking about Jenkins replacement but the rest of the safeties are good enough but nothing spectacular. They can play the season with them but certainly an upgrade can be had and they do need someone to play beside Jenkins next year.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:19 PM   #12
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Dawk, if they go OT it will tell me they see Big V as dependable, flexible depth; nothing more. It will also tell me they don't see Malaita as anything more than depth. I can understand that and live with that but it will tell me something.
I also think fans see CBs as future safeties more than coaches do. Personally I think it is too early to be thinking about Jenkins replacement but the rest of the safeties are good enough but nothing spectacular. They can play the season with them but certainly an upgrade can be had and they do need someone to play beside Jenkins next year.
I guess that I am the only one around here that is very high on Pryor and confident with Mailata. I do think that they have to make a decision one way or the other with the Aussie this year though. He can either play or he can't. One other point that I'd like to make is that McLeod is no gimme to play this year either coming off of that injury. History does show that they prefer to draft lineman though so I can't argue anybody's choices with what I've read here today.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:08 AM   #13
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Rd 1 (25) Cody Ford, G, Oklahoma
Rd 2 (53) Darnell Savage, S, Maryland
Rd 2 (57) Dre'Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
Rd 4 (127) Vosean Joseph, LB, Florida
Rd 4 (138 ) Ryquell Armstead, RB, Temple
Rd 5 (163) Travis Fulgham, WR, Old Dominion
Rd 6 (197) Malik Carney, DE/OLB, North Carolina
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:48 AM   #14
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Dawk, I've seen Wilkens in the top 10 on a few of these ratings sites. What makes you think that he will be around at 25?
I definitely have guys that they may have trade up or down for. Up for someone like Wilkins or Burns. Down for anyone who may go in the 3rd and wonít make it to the 4th
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:38 AM   #15
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I definitely have guys that they may have trade up or down for. Up for someone like Wilkins or Burns. Down for anyone who may go in the 3rd and wonít make it to the 4th
Gotcha. Luri's comments might mean that they are not following the norm though. They move up more than they move down over the years but he did say that they were gathering picks. That might indicate that they are moving down or at least staying put. He threw that "value" thing around again and then he said that he wanted "difference makers". You can't have it both ways Jeff so I take that with the typical pre draft nonsense.
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1-25: Jeffrey Simmons, Cody Ford, Dalton Risner
2-53: Hakeem Butler, Tytus Howard, Garrett Bradbury
2-57: Kaleb McGary, Rashan Gary, Josh Jacobs
4-127: David Montgomery, D. Calhoun, Ben Burr-Kirven
4-138: Bryce Love, B. Powers, E. Worthington
5-164: Jordan Brown, Christian Miller, Justice Hill
6-208: Sutton Smith, Ross Pierscbacher, D. Randall
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:18 PM   #17
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Wilkins and Risner are two of the highest talent and character guys in this draft. Would be ecstatic if we got both. Wilkins may go too high. Risner is a 30-40 range that we’d have to trade up for.
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Taz, what do you think of Armstead? I havenít seen enough. What I have seen he seems very average and doesnít really give us anything that we donít already have on the roster. How would he fit in the rotation?
I have watched him play several times, sometimes TV shots don't tell the whole story.

I see a guy with good vision and good acceleration through the hole. He is solid in pass blocking. The one question is pass catching not because he can't its just not a large body of work. From what I saw the times they did use him as a receiver he had good hands.

To me he is a upgrade from Smallwood and Adams. He probably doesn't crack the Howard and Clement (pending health) top 2 but I can see him in some packages and being a good special teams player. In round 4 he is a solid pick up
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:22 PM   #19
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Rd 1 (25) Cody Ford, G, Oklahoma
Rd 2 (53) Darnell Savage, S, Maryland
Rd 2 (57) Dre'Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
Rd 4 (127) Vosean Joseph, LB, Florida
Rd 4 (138 ) Ryquell Armstead, RB, Temple
Rd 5 (163) Travis Fulgham, WR, Old Dominion
Rd 6 (197) Malik Carney, DE/OLB, North Carolina
Not bad, I like Ford a lot but if Brooks is healthy (and BTW he seems to be on his way to recovery) not sure we need a guard. Now I think he may be able to play tackle, he played some right tackle. We need a left tackle though.
Really like the rest of the picks, although I must admit I have not seen a lot of Fulgham
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Dawk, if they go OT it will tell me they see Big V as dependable, flexible depth; nothing more. It will also tell me they don't see Malaita as anything more than depth. I can understand that and live with that but it will tell me something.
I also think fans see CBs as future safeties more than coaches do. Personally I think it is too early to be thinking about Jenkins replacement but the rest of the safeties are good enough but nothing spectacular. They can play the season with them but certainly an upgrade can be had and they do need someone to play beside Jenkins next year.
Have to remember that Big V and Peters both are free agents after this year. So going Tackle to me is a high likelihood depending on who is there at 25 .
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