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    How the possible NFL roster reduction would affect Eagles' training camp
    By Reuben Frank July 01, 2020 12:27 PM

    The Eagles could be forced to cut 15 players from their roster before training camp even starts.

    According to USA Today’s Mike Jones, the NFLPA - the players’ union - is considering a proposal that would reduce training camp roster limits from the current 90 to 80 or even 75 to make it easier for teams to satisfy the league’s strict summer camp social distancing restrictions and also now that the NFL has reduced the preseason schedule from four games to two.

    What would this mean for the Eagles?

    It would mean several intriguing rookies, and perhaps some well-known veterans, could find themselves out of work in the next few weeks.

    Common sense says most of those 15 players would be undrafted rookies, although the Eagles always keep a few of those on the roster and several got sizable bonuses this year.

    This is all just in the early stages right now. Because roster size is part of the CBA, it would presumably take an agreement between both the NFLPA and management council for any change to go into effect.

    But let’s take a look at who might be in jeopardy if the Eagles do have to trim 15 players before they even get to camp:

    Offensive Line [15]
    The Eagles have a couple undrafted rookies in Luke Juriga and Julian Good-Jones. But Juriga got the most guaranteed money of any undrafted rookie on the team ($116,000), so he’s not going anywhere. Interior linemen Nate Herbig and Sue Opeta were both on the 53 last year, but Herbig could be an early roster casualty if the Eagles are that high on Juriga. Among the tackles, Casey Tucker would make the most sense. The Eagles can also place Brandon Brooks on Injured Reserve to buy themselves a spot.

    Running Back [6]
    One of the undrafted rookies - Cincinnati’s Mike Warren or UCF’s Adrian Killins Jr. - could be in jeopardy. Or the Eagles might choose to part ways with Elijah Holyfield and keep the rookies, although they liked Holyfield enough to add him last December.

    Wide Receiver [14]
    You need legs in camp, but 14 is a lot of receivers. There’s a large group of holdovers from late last year still under contract - Shelton Gibson, Deontay Burnett, Robert Davis, Marcus Green - along with newcomers like undrafted Khalil Tate and Manasseh Bailey. The Eagles drafted two receivers in the later rounds, but there’s no way they'll part with Quez Watkins or John Hightower. Most likely, the cuts - as many as three - would come from Gibson, Davis, Green, Tate and Bailey.

    Tight End [5]
    After Zach Ertz and Dallas Goedert, you have veteran Josh Perkins, holdover Alex Ellis and undrafted Noah Togiai from Oregon State. Togiai got $100,000 guaranteed, which might protect him and leave Ellis or Perkins vulnerable.

    Quarterback [4]
    You can’t have training camp with fewer than four QBs, so Kyle Lauletta is safe for the time being.

    Defensive Tackle [8]
    The Eagles liked undrafted rookie Raequan Williams to give him $100,000 in guaranteed money, so he’s staying put. If the Eagles need to release an interior defensive lineman it would likely come from Bruce Hector, Albert Huggins or Anthony Rush. Of that group, Rush played the most last year, so I would expect Hector or Huggins to be in jeopardy.

    Defensive End [8]
    The Eagles are invested in all these guys. They could buy a roster spot by placing Daeshon Hall on PUP.

    Linebacker [8]
    Dante Olson, an undrafted rookie out of Montana, would likely be the odd man out, although Alex Singleton could be an option.

    Safety [6]
    Of the pure safeties on the roster, Marcus Epps and Rudy Ford would be most in jeopardy. Both are mainly special teamers.

    Defensive Backs [4]
    The Eagles list four players - all rookies - as “defensive backs,” or combination corner-safeties. This group includes Grayland Arnold, Michael Jacquet, Elijah Riley and Prince Smith, all undrafted. The Eagles are highest on Arnold, which could leave the others vulnerable.

    Cornerback [9]
    Most of the Eagles’ corners have legit roster chances, so I don’t see any potential early cuts coming from this group (Rasul Douglas, Sidney Jones, Craig James, Cre’Von LeBlanc, Avonte Maddox, Nickell Robey-Coleman. Darius Slay, Tremon Smith, Trevor Williams).

    Specialist [3]
    The Eagles only have one of each now so they’re not going anywhere.

    So to get from 90 to 75, one way to do it would be three offensive linemen, one running back, three receivers, a tight end, a defensive tackle, a linebacker, a safety, two of the rookie corner-safety combo guys and then placing Brooks and Hall on Injured Reserve.

    As of now, NFL teams are currently allowed to carry 90 players until Sept. 5, when rosters must be reduced to the regular-season limit of 53. Once players clear waivers teams are allowed to re-sign up to 12 to their practice squad.



    What are your thoughts ?

    I like Grayland Arnold, want to see Killans and Warren run the ball before they get cut, I am more inclined to see Holyfield walk.
    We're looking for people that are fundamentally different,” vice president of player personnel Andy Weidl said Saturday night. “The love and passion for football, it's non-negotiable. They're caring, their character, they do the right thing persistently, and they have a relentless playing style that you can see on tape. The motor, it burns hot. You see them finishing plays. They have a team-first mentality. They're selfless individuals.

  • #2
    Really sucks for the young guys. I wouldn't be too worried about cutting some players though because every team is in the same boat. I think the social distancing is impossible in football though.
    Last edited by Eagle60; 07-02-2020, 02:45 PM.
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    • #3
      Said this early. My nephew is an undrafted OL for the Falcons. He has spent the summer with the playbook and has faithfully stuck to training program they gave him. We are worried that he wont get a shot to go to camp. Just want him to have that experience.

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      • #4
        Teams will have to think differently. Article says you have to have 4 QBs but why? Camp will be different so the days of the QB throwing a million passes in camp are long gone. Same with receivers.
        The issue will be that some young guys who may have gotten a chance to show their stuff won't get that chance this year. It may also result in more guys going on PS for a week and then being rotated off the squad for a week or two. Every team will have the same issue so worrying that you will lose a guy because they don't clear waivers shouldn't be as concerning.
        Once camp is over the PS should fill up as they won't have the worry of too many guys in the locker room
        Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
        Hope is not a strategy
        RIP

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kyfred View Post
          Said this early. My nephew is an undrafted OL for the Falcons. He has spent the summer with the playbook and has faithfully stuck to training program they gave him. We are worried that he wont get a shot to go to camp. Just want him to have that experience.
          This sucks for him Fred. Sorry.
          "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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          • #6
            This seems backwards. Teams are going to need extra guys in case players test positive.
            Fly EaglesFly!

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            • #7
              I honestly don't think they're going to play football. They keep talking a good game, and keeping the wheels turning, but as soon as some players test positive, and the ramifications are felt, that's going to be it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eaglebreath View Post
                I honestly don't think they're going to play football. They keep talking a good game, and keeping the wheels turning, but as soon as some players test positive, and the ramifications are felt, that's going to be it.
                I don't think that anybody does EB because it's been dead around here for so long. Then again if these guys can get sick and only miss a game or even play that week it would go a long way to calm America down.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eaglebreath View Post
                  I honestly don't think they're going to play football. They keep talking a good game, and keeping the wheels turning, but as soon as some players test positive, and the ramifications are felt, that's going to be it.
                  I totally agree. Unless this virus burns out quickly, I think the players are going to start bailing and that will end the season before it gets started.

                  Also will be interesting to see how the NBA, NHL and MLB handles this. If one of them cancels the season, I can see it snowballing.

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                  • #10
                    There are only 2 ways this season has a chance of being played. One is to totally quarantine the teams and everybody that could possibly have contact with them but to me that is just unrealistic and frankly impossible. The other is to wait for a vaccine and start things rolling then which definitely is a better idea. Why not wait until January to start it? It's not like they have to worry about other sports competing against them. Baseball is afraid to schedule a World Series game on a Monday night because they know their audience will be so low


                    If you try start the season the way they plan to now they are doomed.
                    "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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                    • #11
                      Even an optimist like me feels like it ain't gonna happen...

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