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Old 05-09-2017, 07:42 AM   #11
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Okay here is one for you. Off MDs thought about people being too stupid (or lazy) or voting based on one thing--- a point I agree with-- what do you think about this.
During my visit to nature last week we discussed (sometime around midnight after far too much to drink) how a senator should vote. My take is that party be damned he/she should vote for what is best for the country. Others felt he/she should vote what is best for the state, That is why you send them there.
I believe you go to Washington to represent the state interest in doing what is best for the country. If a vote may not be in the best interest of the state but is in the best interest of the country you have to vote for it. Others felt you have to vote for what is best for your state. As an example if the military, in the best interest of the country, wants to close a base in your state you should vote to close the base. You can fight to get another industry or a concession but you have to do what is best for the country.
It is easy to say do what is best for the country but I find far too many politicians do what is best for them or their state far too often
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Old 05-09-2017, 09:31 AM   #12
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Good Nodak, the old adage partially applies now.... Squeaky wheel gets the grease. And in many many cases it boils down to the next election...... What his vote means for the next election becomes the driving force ..... not the state vs the country debate.

IMM, This is why term limits are what might help, won't fix the problem but it would be a big step in trying too.
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:01 AM   #13
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Good points ND and perfect answer MD . Term limits!

Seriously, is there a better job in the world better than a US Senator? WTF do they do other get wined and dined for 6 years? Then of course they get reelected because voters know that the longer they are in the more power they actually get.

This ditzy broad Warren from Mass. bitches about other politicians speaking for all kinds of money but gets $20-$40K a pop for anybody dumb enough to hire her to speak. What a joke. I even heard one of these talking heads say that she should have been Clinton's VP because she's so DYNAMIC!! Is that one of the most bizarre things that you have ever come out of one of these guys mouths or what?
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:35 AM   #14
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LOL, Warren is scary..... there has GOT to be a few women out there that would do a great job and not scare the bejeezus out of me.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:17 AM   #15
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Not sure how anyone who has heard her could possibly vote for her. As you say she is scary. If I could think of more forceful words I would use them.
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Personally I would love to be able to vote for a women, just that it SEEMS in order to rise to the national level needed...... You gotta be an asshole to ge there.

The system is F'd up.
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:48 PM   #17
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There is a senator from ND named Heidi Heitkamp that I voted for and would again. Over they years I have disagreed with her on things (she was attorney general for awhile in ND) and agreed on things. But she believes in what is right for the most part, is not a great political type and generally doesn't vote party lines. Having said that I will also say there are times she votes dem when I believe she is voting party line but I think it is a case of her thought being close to the party and it wasn't going to make a difference to put up the fight.
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