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Old 12-21-2017, 09:18 PM   #21
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I'd agree with those numbers MD and would hope you would agree with the unemployment numbers and the stock market numbers.
I would also add that a wholllleee lot of that debt came from getting involved in a war that we weren't paying for. Which goes back to the Bush administration stayed through his administration and continues in this administration. I would also reflect back to the economy that he stepped into and give that some consideration for actions taken to turn around an economy that was spiraling downward on a fast track. Finally, deficit spending is a way of life in DC; as I asked when was the last time we had a balanced budget. All of these cats, including the current administration, has no qualms about deficit spending. Only time will tell but I will eagerly await the deficit number in three years. Sounds to me like it should be in the ten trillion area.
I am almost believing we should have a wartime tax. Everyone throw in another $10 or $15k. Make it a little tougher on those sitting around avoiding military service but happy to send other people's kids to war.
Administrations may not do what a segment wants but, this is just my opinion, doing nothing is not a fair comment.
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Old 12-21-2017, 11:43 PM   #22
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Again, we disagree.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:10 PM   #23
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Just me sayin...............


Below are the 12 categories and 81 wins by the White House.

Jobs and the economy

Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.

Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.

Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.

Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.

A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.

A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.

A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.

Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations

Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.

Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.

Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.

Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.

Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.


Fair trade

Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.

Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.

Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.

Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.

Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.


Boosting U.S. energy dominance

The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.

Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.

Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.

EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.


Protecting the U.S. homeland

Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.

Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.

Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.

Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.

Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.

Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.

Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.

Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.

Added some 100 new immigration judges.
Protecting communities

Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.

Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.

Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.



Accountability

Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.

Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.

Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.

Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.

Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.



Combatting opioids

First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.

His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.

The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.

Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.

Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.

The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.

On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.



Protecting life

In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.

Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.

Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.




Helping veterans

Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.


Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.

Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.

Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.

Created a VA hotline.

Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.


Promoting peace through strength

Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.

Worked to increase defense spending.

Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.

Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.

Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.

Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.

Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.

Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.

NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.

Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.

Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.



Restoring confidence in and respect for America

Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.

Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests.

He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.

Traveled to Poland and on to German for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:01 PM   #24
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Great, you should write to him and maybe take Omarosa's place.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:12 PM   #25
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Lol, Just have waited so long to get a president with some balls.

Sorry so many worry more about style than substance.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:20 PM   #26
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Just a few points that I'd like to make regarding your comments MD and ND.

When Clinton left office the government was running at a SURPLUS!! The big argument in Congress was that the Republicans wanted the money distributed back to the people while Clinton wanted to use it to reduce the National Debt.

Bush blew it out of the water, first by just spending a lot and then starting a war. He was more of a Democrat than Clinton was in many respects, and Clinton more of a Republican. Bush also was guilty of the same numbers that MD accused Obama amassed. The only problem is that when you double numbers several times they add up very quickly.

The economy was improving at the end of the Obama administration but the election of Trump with his proposed policies set the market on fire. Anyone who has and IRA or 401K has already benefited greatly from his administration.

Unemployment went down as soon as congress took away unemployment benefits Obama's second term because there were so many freeloaders collecting that had no intention of going back to work. Those numbers are always pretty fake anyway because they do not reflect the under employed people and they are just not that accurate period.

Just for the record I find Trump a jerk but also an effective President. There aren't many of his policies that he has that I don't agree with. I can't stand him but I've got to admit he's the first transparent President of my lifetime because he can't keep his mouth shut. We know what he is thinking all the time. I think these tax cuts for the rich are far too overdone. Kennedy keeps being brought up as the pioneer of this philosophy and he was. However, the top tax rates were close to 80% at the time. Regan also cut them again but it lead to a deficit eventually but I admit that I don't know the economics of why.

Trump is also much more popular than the polls indicate. Even now people won't admit to anybody that they voted for him or agree with him (even in a poll) but they secretly do. As long as the economy improves I think that he will stay in office. Much of his progress negotiating agreements with other countries over a variety of subjects goes unreported.
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Without a doubt this is the most important document Trump has put his signature on. Please read the incredible scope that this covers and how far reaching it is legally. Remember this is a declaration of a national emergency the media has barely touched this if at all. The most important aspect of the order is the "corruption" aspect and the seizing of assets using the Treasury dept. and DOJ. This is huge, and this is how you drain the swamp!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...se-corruption/
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Without a doubt this is the most important document Trump has put his signature on. Please read the incredible scope that this covers and how far reaching it is legally. Remember this is a declaration of a national emergency the media has barely touched this if at all. The most important aspect of the order is the "corruption" aspect and the seizing of assets using the Treasury dept. and DOJ. This is huge, and this is how you drain the swamp!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...se-corruption/
Thanks for posting this Zep. I'm surprised that FOX hasn't run with this.
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Thanks for posting this Zep. I'm surprised that FOX hasn't run with this.
I am as well. I very rarely watch Fox anymore, I watch OANN One America News Network, all the rest of my news is through the internet. This is a declaration of national emergency, how is this not HUGE news???
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I am as well. I very rarely watch Fox anymore, I watch OANN One America News Network, all the rest of my news is through the internet. This is a declaration of national emergency, how is this not HUGE news???
Maybe it isn't real?
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