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Old 02-19-2018, 01:09 AM   #11
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I appreciate your rethinking your 1) garbage post---Not that it maters really since you 2) DESPISE me. LOL.

Look you ranted and raved --- but please tell me what is factually incorrect about my post??????

And I'll tell you the same thing I told Nodak (and add just a few more just for you)----3) I am an independent who while not thinking Trump is very presidential, he wants the same things for this country as I do. Do I really care if he 4) embellishes a lot of times ---- NO--- cause that isn't what is important, what he does is!

And just because you do not like my position on policies--- doesn't make me wrong or an 5) imbecile, or nut job, or liar---- as you want to portray me. So fuck off and you can post whatever you want, as 6) your drunken posts probably tell the world what kind of person you really are.

Want to call me deplorable, as 7) your queen did? Fine I'll wear it as a badge of honor. The Clintons and Obamas were so corrupt it isn't funny--- and the FACTS support this. Why didn't Obama do anything about the Russian "disinformation campaign" when he was alerted to it in 2014? Why did we sell 20% of our Uranium supplies to Uranium 1) (Russia) in exchange for over 100 million to the Clinton foundation, no need to even talk about Billy Boy. Why did they pay Fusion GPS for dirt on Trump?? And that dirt came from Russia? These are all facts not my theories! Why didn't the FBI get this Cruz guy in Florida... after knowing about him since last Sept, and being twice alerted about him and did nothing and now 17 people are dead--- and they ADMIT this, it is a FACT not my theory.

And you have the balls to call me all kinds of names and dive deep into your adjective closet to find other ways to disparage ME-- when you show nothing, add nothing, and can't disprove anything. --- typical snowflake lefty that thinks he is the only one that can be right!

And remember this I didn't ever attack you or call you names --- you visited all that on me. I'm gonna say this real slow, so that maybe at your advanced age--- or the dog is licking your face----- YOU STARTED THIS. I posted some facts and opinions and you just ranted and raved about what an ignorant person I am. So I'll say this again---9) FUCK YOU DICK!!!!!

Don't like me or my posts--- ignore them! Don't like people who have the audacity to disagree with your POV--- then I would stay off the internet! Because at least half this country is in agreement with my positions! But of course they are all (just fill in a string of derogatory and nasty names), cause that is what you seem to do!

Please ignore me!

PS-- I see you went back and 9) redid your post at 5:18--- LMAO!
Bob, BOB, BOB!

Where did it all go so wrong? It's been said that internet debates, especially political debates, should be avoided because misunderstandings leading to animosity take place that probably wouldn't occur if the same two people were sharing a couple beers face to face. In our case, I don't think that's true. I believe if we'd still have real difficulty with one another.

I'm going to respond briefly to a few of the many kind remarks you included in your post. But not all...there are just too many. And I'm not going to debate any of the points you raise because, frankly, there's never any payoff ,no resolution.

Let's begin:
1) Garbage Post - Can't disagree! Poorly conceived, written hastily and impulsively in anger...plus those 3 beers. Outright debauchery in the middle of the day. Wish I hadn't written it. .
2) Despise - Yeah, I did use that verb originally to describe how I felt about intelligent people generally (like you but not you specifically) who still blindly support Trump... but went back and changed it to have contempt for because I thought despise was too personal and maybe took too much energy.
3) I am an independent - You've made that claim several times before. Really!
4) embellishes a lot of times - Trump flat out lies without the least compunction on a daily basis and you know he does. I've watched him lie in public his entire adult life. The scary part is that he often believes his own lies once they've passed his lips. You repeatedly insist that what he says doesn't matter. For once you're wrong. It does matter when the President's word can't be trusted...at all.
5) imbecile, or nut job, or liar - I think you'd be hard pressed to find a post where I've called you any of those things. I have said you distort and advance half truths when making an argument, but we probably all do that occasionally. The only really offensive terms I ever recall intentionally using were "asshole" the other day in the post I subsequently deleted and twice claiming that you were born with a stick up your ass 'cause you seem so frequently in a sour mood. I could be wrong...there may be more.
6) your drunken posts probably tell the world what kind of person you really are. I hope my AA mentor doesn't read this. Probably not a big risk there because, as you point out so frequently and with such seeming satisfaction, this forum has lost many of it's members.
7) your queen did - Now I'll use the word 'despise'. I despise Hilary Clinton. Can't listen to her and can't watch her. I think she's an arrogant, hair slitting, greedy POS who thought it was simply her turn to be President.
call me all kinds of names - (see #5)
9) FUCK YOU DICK - Now we're cookin'!

But, enough of this. Really! No more pissing contest for me.

Many years ago, in a very dark pace filled with unspeakable pain and suffering, I promised myself if I was lucky enough to 'get out of this place' I would 1) never take my life and the people in it for granted; would 2)try hard to hold true to my core principles; and would 3) always try to find the lighter side of the life situations in which I found myself. That's worked out OK for me for the most part, although I have an admittedly warped view of life, am too sarcastic and find humor where many don't. Can't really change that. I am who I am.

I try really hard to be objective and well informed. But I've also got strong opinions, a short fuse,and the damn sarcastic bent, which serves me poorly at times. Your label notwithstanding, I don't drink much and am generally just the opposite of 'an angry drunk'. I also do not enjoy arguing at all, especially on the internet. It's fruitless and frustrating and leads nowhere. No one's mind ever gets changed by internet debates.


With that, I'm done on this thread! Life is too short

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Old 02-19-2018, 08:18 AM   #12
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Lotta words there Dick----- none of them telling or proveing what I said is wrong or non factual..... None.


All that message said is blah blah blah blah...... I must be a crazy person or one to be diispised simply because I do not agree with you.

I pointed out some things .... And as you say in a debate or even an argument there should be some back and forth an exchange.

But that isn't what happened here or any other time here ..... You just want to bash Trump and anybodie that likes the direction he is taking this country... Or at leas trying to. Does he lie? So fucking what!!!! Every single President does it and every single one in the future will do it. Grow the fuck up ... Mentally.

Stop turning all these posts into personal attacks rather than arguing the facts. Some person used taxpayer money.... Big fucking deal... Happens about every third week nWasington.... You want to compare that to some of the real crap that's going on... Have at it...... But then don't call other people names and bash them because they do not feel the same way. You add nothing but despicable vitriol, and attacking anybody that isn't in lock step with you.

Your problem.... Not mine.

And btw... I am an independent, and have voted so since I was able.. And I have voted both ways. Now you want to call me a lunar again or make fun of that ..again have at it.... But it is your problem not mine.

As I said if you despise me that much.... Ignore me.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:28 AM   #13
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Lotta words there Dick----- none of them telling or proveing what I said is wrong or non factual..... None.


All that message said is blah blah blah blah...... I must be a crazy person or one to be diispised simply because I do not agree with you.

I pointed out some things .... And as you say in a debate or even an argument there should be some back and forth an exchange.

But that isn't what happened here or any other time here ..... You just want to bash Trump and anybodie that likes the direction he is taking this country... Or at leas trying to. Does he lie? So fucking what!!!! Every single President does it and every single one in the future will do it. Grow the fuck up ... Mentally.

Stop turning all these posts into personal attacks rather than arguing the facts. Some person used taxpayer money.... Big fucking deal... Happens about every third week nWasington.... You want to compare that to some of the real crap that's going on... Have at it...... But then don't call other people names and bash them because they do not feel the same way. You add nothing but despicable vitriol, and attacking anybody that isn't in lock step with you.

Your problem.... Not mine.

And btw... I am an independent, and have voted so since I was able.. And I have voted both ways. Now you want to call me a lunar again or make fun of that ..again have at it.... But it is your problem not mine.

As I said if you despise me that much.... Ignore me.
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Let it go. You win. Have a nice life!
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:16 AM   #14
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Dick, Not sure I will, nor do I think there is a need to -- and it was never a contest to win or lose!

You have done this before-- you come here and you insult people and call them names , insult their POV, and try to be sooooooooooo humorous and yet add very little to any conversation, here or on the football board.

You disagree with me, fine say so, and tell me what I said was wrong, stop your generalization of what I am BECAUSE I like Trump's policies and directions! You are a typical person who has been polarized, and believes the 1st amendment only goes one way--- yours. And no matter what Trump does you must oppose it or anyone who actually has the gall to agree with what he is doing. You constantly emotionally respond rather than factually think, IMHO. And I "despise" anyone that does that on a consistent basis.

Wanna debate-- get specific, stick to facts no emotiuons----- wanna disagree... tell me where I'm wrong (in all this back and forth you still haven't done that) ---- and most importantly you need to stop worrying about what Trump sez or how he is un-presidential and pay a lot more attention to what he actually gets done and what else he wants to get done! Pay attention to the important stuff and not the drama!
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Old 02-28-2018, 03:14 AM   #15
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And one more thing--- Yes I do listen to a bit of FOX---- but also NBC and ABC!!
I listen to all sides and then and only then will I decide what is credible and what is not.
You all should stop watching the MSM propaganda and use the amazing tool of the internet to do your own research, it's amazing what you find when the narrative isn't being shoved down your throat. Maybe then I could stand liberal fuckwads er I mean democrats.......nah never going to happen! As long as they keep voting to kill babies I want nothing to do with them!
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:57 AM   #16
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Yea the internet is a great thing. Hell a friend sent me a pic of a pike that hung over both sides of the boat caught in a small lake. Amazing how much truth you find
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:00 PM   #17
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Yea the internet is a great thing. Hell a friend sent me a pic of a pike that hung over both sides of the boat caught in a small lake. Amazing how much truth you find
Of course just like everything in life you also have to apply good judgement, something liberals are in short supply of. They need to be spoon fed their narrative so they don't get their little feelings hurt!
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I guess I would say the same about the media. FNC (sometimes called Fox but just as often the Fake News Channel) is absolutely no different than the mainstream. In fact worse because they have a 100% agenda just like CNN.
I find the vast majority of people don't spend six minutes of their life applying good judgement. Hell, I just had a great time explaining to an idiot yesterday that no Congress does not get 100% of their salary for the rest of their life and yes Congress has to pay Social Security just like you
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Hmmmm well isn't this interesting, EO pertaining to court marshals that came out yesterday. "Nothing to see here move along people" lol

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...united-states/
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Hmmmmm well lookie here an 1100 page list of individuals from around the world that that have their assets blocked or frozen by the U.S. treasury dept. since the EO on 12/21/18.

https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/sdnlist.pdf
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