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  • #16
    'Britney Spears files for divorce from Kevin Federline'

    'Eagles Lead NFL In Dropped Passes'

    Which was a less surprising headline? It's close.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by eaglefan55
      Some of this is also on McNabb, he throws some pretty balls but he throws many that are not exactly caught in stride
      I think DMac is one of the top three QB's, but with so many shoelace receptions, I'm sure it is hard to concentrate when hit in stride at chest level. It has to be, "What is this? Ball on stride with nobody in sight? WOW, I'm going to take this to the.........fuck!!!"

      Plus Donnie throws some rockets. Then there are the ten bombs that were catchable but were also difficlut against the Bucs. I still want ot fight with some of you who thought some of those passes should have been caught. Like the one where Baskett had it in his hands after going up for it, but it was knocked out before he brought it into his body. I mean, he has to go after it with a defender on him. He then has to bring it in, but a good shot from a corner will normally win that battle. Many of those bombs were just a tad short of being catchable, but I'm sure the critics are evaluating them the same as angry fans who are watching from the upper level or on a small bar TV.

      That said, we lost two games because of dropped 4th quarter balls in our stuars' hands. LJ, Donte and Westy dropped first down passes against the Gnats. Donnie blew a first down, Lewis doesn't properly fall on a fumble and Cole kicks a guy at the worse possible time in a game. Who would think that much bad shit can happen to that many good players in one quarter? It was so fuck'n unreal. And it all starts with one dropped ball.
      Pedro

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      • #18
        I don't like the players use it as an excuse, but I think that the fact that the Eagles throw so much is part of the reason they lead in drops.

        It's kind of like how the Phillies led the NL in LOBs. If you get lots of runners on base, you're going to leave lots on, too.
        Originally posted by DuckyNinja
        I think if FredEx were still on the Eagles, he'd be our best receiver. Seriously. No joke.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by phatj
          I don't like the players use it as an excuse, but I think that the fact that the Eagles throw so much is part of the reason they lead in drops.
          That's what LJ Smith said, and it's really lame. Reread this part of the article -- "they are only eighth in attempted passes with 279. As a comparison, Indianapolis, which is right ahead of the Eagles with 281 attempts, has just 10 dropped passes."

          8th in attempts, but 1st in drops; and this isn't just statistical slight of hand as it can be easily argued that dropped passes contributed directly to at least two of their four losses.
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          • #20
            Besides that, if Andy wants to pretend that the short passing game is an extension of the running game, then short passes that get dropped are magnified IMO.
            And they contribute greatly to this teams "3 and out" syndrome.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by saratoga
              Originally posted by phatj
              I don't like the players use it as an excuse, but I think that the fact that the Eagles throw so much is part of the reason they lead in drops.
              That's what LJ Smith said, and it's really lame. Reread this part of the article -- "they are only eighth in attempted passes with 279. As a comparison, Indianapolis, which is right ahead of the Eagles with 281 attempts, has just 10 dropped passes."

              8th in attempts, but 1st in drops; and this isn't just statistical slight of hand as it can be easily argued that dropped passes contributed directly to at least two of their four losses.
              I guess I didn't express myself very well.

              My point is just that looking at total number of drops in a vacuum doesn't tell you much. Drops/Pass Attempts would be more enlightening. Some sort of more advanced drop rate adjusted for distance of passes attempted would be better still.
              Originally posted by DuckyNinja
              I think if FredEx were still on the Eagles, he'd be our best receiver. Seriously. No joke.

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              • #22
                Just to further confuse---- isn't this(deciding what is and isn't a drop) also just somebodies(or several persons) personal, subjective decision?????

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by phatj
                  Originally posted by saratoga
                  Originally posted by phatj
                  I don't like the players use it as an excuse, but I think that the fact that the Eagles throw so much is part of the reason they lead in drops.
                  That's what LJ Smith said, and it's really lame. Reread this part of the article -- "they are only eighth in attempted passes with 279. As a comparison, Indianapolis, which is right ahead of the Eagles with 281 attempts, has just 10 dropped passes."

                  8th in attempts, but 1st in drops; and this isn't just statistical slight of hand as it can be easily argued that dropped passes contributed directly to at least two of their four losses.
                  I guess I didn't express myself very well.

                  My point is just that looking at total number of drops in a vacuum doesn't tell you much. Drops/Pass Attempts would be more enlightening. Some sort of more advanced drop rate adjusted for distance of passes attempted would be better still.
                  Interesting points. Thanks.

                  They seem to make some attempt to quantify what's catchable, but it would be interesting to review the tape with them and see how they decide this.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MDFAN
                    Just to further confuse---- isn't this(deciding what is and isn't a drop) also just somebodies(or several persons) personal, subjective decision?????
                    Very much so. It's kind of like pornography; hard to define, but I know it when I see it.

                    Just look at the differing responses between Westy and LJ.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by saratoga
                      Originally posted by MDFAN
                      Just to further confuse---- isn't this(deciding what is and isn't a drop) also just somebodies(or several persons) personal, subjective decision?????
                      Very much so. It's kind of like pornography; hard to define, but I know it when I see it.

                      Just look at the differing responses between Westy and LJ.
                      Not just the difference between those two, but the fans when watching the game. I swear that 90% of the fans on here said that passes that were tipped by defenders should have been caught. I disagreed then, and still do. Plus, some passes from Donnie are harder to catch than others.


                      What they need to point out was how many of these passes were dropped in the fourth quarter with the game on the line. You will find out that most of these balls (except the rookies against TB) were dropped at crucial times. It kind of reminds me of the Abreau and Rodriquez arguments about cluth hits. Only, we have clutch drops by all of our receivers.
                      Pedro

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by saratoga
                        Besides that, if Andy wants to pretend that the short passing game is an extension of the running game, then short passes that get dropped are magnified IMO.
                        I agree. Sort of like a running back who leads the league in falling down at the line of scrimmage for no gain.
                        Prevent the prevent!

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                        • #27
                          Any dropped passes yesterday? None are jumping out at me.
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                          • #28
                            it was the hook & ladder

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