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Originally posted by BIGPHILLYOriginally posted by MDFANOriginally posted by bird is da wordHe certainly deserves better than what this city is offering
He has been the winningest QB the city has seen in years upon years, he visits no troubles, no black eyes to the team or city, he is nothing but professional.
Yet he gets his gnads twisted anytime some hack like Eckel wants to sell a few papers or get his name on ESPN.
And that might be ok even if the things being said about him where at least factual,,, they aren't. It's like that old qiup,,,,, "when did you stoop beating your wife".
You wanna call it stupid, hey that's on you, but IMO it's factual and spot on.
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Originally posted by sfphillyfanFor reasons that are long entrenched into the collective city psyche, Reid and McNabb have personalities that will never be embraced by the majority of the city. It's just the way it is. There will be no changing it. Both will be constantly under fire until they win a SB."Philly fans are great....It's the only place where you pull up on the bus and you've got the grandfather, the grandmother, the kids and the grandkids - everybody flicking you off. At other stadiums, they give you the thumbs-down. Here, they give you the middle finger.”
— Michael Strahan
"No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us, we don’t care, we’re from Philly, F—-ing Philly, No one likes us, we don’t care!”
- Jason Kelce with the best championship speech ever
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Originally posted by MDFANOriginally posted by BIGPHILLYOriginally posted by MDFANOriginally posted by bird is da wordHe certainly deserves better than what this city is offering
He has been the winningest QB the city has seen in years upon years, he visits no troubles, no black eyes to the team or city, he is nothing but professional.
Yet he gets his gnads twisted anytime some hack like Eckel wants to sell a few papers or get his name on ESPN.
And that might be ok even if the things being said about him where at least factual,,, they aren't. It's like that old qiup,,,,, "when did you stoop beating your wife".
You wanna call it stupid, hey that's on you, but IMO it's factual and spot on.
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Originally posted by MDFANOriginally posted by BIGPHILLYOriginally posted by MDFANOriginally posted by bird is da wordHe certainly deserves better than what this city is offering
He has been the winningest QB the city has seen in years upon years, he visits no troubles, no black eyes to the team or city, he is nothing but professional.
Yet he gets his gnads twisted anytime some hack like Eckel wants to sell a few papers or get his name on ESPN.
And that might be ok even if the things being said about him where at least factual,,, they aren't. It's like that old qiup,,,,, "when did you stoop beating your wife".
You wanna call it stupid, hey that's on you, but IMO it's factual and spot on.
The winningest QB this city has seen?....True MD, but considering who has been QB for this team in the last 40 years ( Norm Snead, Pete Liske, Mike Boryla, John Reaves, Rick Arrington, Dan Pastorini, Roman Gabriel, Joe Pisarcick, Brad Goebal, etc.,etc. etc., )....YOU could probably suit up today MD and crack the all time 5 best list LOL
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The problem i have, and I expect BP as well, is with the broad bush used to paint Philly fans with negativity.......it's the same thing the national media does, and here we have our own people doing it.
Maybe, just MAYBE, Donovan knows that there are a TON of Eagles fans who appreciate him and think he's a great QB, and he see's the sea of green #5 jerseys in the stands and knows how people really feel on the whole. And just MAYBE he realizes there are some media jerks, even guys like Eckel that aren't even writing in Philly, but JERSEY, and sees them for the idiots they are and dismisses them.http://shop.cafepress.com/content/global/img/spacer.gifOK, let's try this again...
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Originally posted by FRESHMaybe, just MAYBE, Donovan knows that there are a TON of Eagles fans who appreciate him and think he's a great QB, and he see's the sea of green #5 jerseys in the stands and knows how people really feel on the whole. And just MAYBE he realizes there are some media jerks, even guys like Eckel that aren't even writing in Philly, but JERSEY, and sees them for the idiots they are and dismisses them.
I'm sure there are some good quotes out there from McNabb about the fans. I know for a fact I've read several quotes by Reid in the past praising the fans and stopping by playoff ticket lines to shake hands with them.
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Originally posted by FRESHThe problem i have, and I expect BP as well, is with the broad bush used to paint Philly fans with negativity.......it's the same thing the national media does, and here we have our own people doing it.
Maybe, just MAYBE, Donovan knows that there are a TON of Eagles fans who appreciate him and think he's a great QB, and he see's the sea of green #5 jerseys in the stands and knows how people really feel on the whole. And just MAYBE he realizes there are some media jerks, even guys like Eckel that aren't even writing in Philly, but JERSEY, and sees them for the idiots they are and dismisses them.
Agree Fresh, and let me just add, this IS the world that celebrities must deal with all the time, so before you paint Mcnabb as the complete victim here, imagine what Brad Pitt and Jennifer Lopez deal with 24/7. They sell friggin tabloid magazines everywhere, that probably have less then an ounce of truth in them. Their movies and lives are out there for all to see. Everybody's got an opinion. THOSE people have zero privacy.....Same thing in sports. You're a hero when you win and you Suck when you lose...And don't tell me that this is limited to how Philly fans treat their own. How was A-Rod treated in NY this past year? What has life been like for Peyton Manning In Indianapolis for the last 5-6 years, when he choked in every big game he ever played. Do you think those fans were anymore forgiving then Philly fans? You think Manning hasn't had to deal w/ Bullshit articles in Indy his whole career...........These guys make the huge dollars. They live the life that anyone of us would trade for in a second. They get to make a living playing a friggin game......The downside obviously is that w/ that you take alot of shit. You lose alot of privacy, and you're constantly second guessed..........It's the deal you make w/ the devil, and is it fair? probably not, but some of you make it sound like Philadelphia has the market cornered on running players out of town..........I don't buy it! Philly fans are no harder on their athlete's then in any other town ( NY, Boston, Chicago, Detroit.......Pick a city)
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"The problem i have, and I expect BP as well, is with the broad bush used to paint Philly fans with negativity.......it's the same thing the national media does, and here we have our own people doing it."
Agree, that's what makes the treatment he gets putrid..... it's mostly our own people (media) starting these kinds of stupid crap pieces and the National media then runs with it.
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Originally posted by pete liske
Agree Fresh, and let me just add, this IS the world that celebrities must deal with all the time, so before you paint Mcnabb as the complete victim here, imagine what Brad Pitt and Jennifer Lopez deal with 24/7. They sell friggin tabloid magazines everywhere, that probably have less then an ounce of truth in them. Their movies and lives are out there for all to see. Everybody's got an opinion. THOSE people have zero privacy.....Same thing in sports. You're a hero when you win and you Suck when you lose...And don't tell me that this is limited to how Philly fans treat their own. How was A-Rod treated in NY this past year? What has life been like for Peyton Manning In Indianapolis for the last 5-6 years, when he choked in every big game he ever played. Do you think those fans were anymore forgiving then Philly fans? You think Manning hasn't had to deal w/ Bullshit articles in Indy his whole career...........These guys make the huge dollars. They live the life that anyone of us would trade for in a second. They get to make a living playing a friggin game......The downside obviously is that w/ that you take alot of shit. You lose alot of privacy, and you're constantly second guessed..........It's the deal you make w/ the devil, and is it fair? probably not, but some of you make it sound like Philadelphia has the market cornered on running players out of town..........I don't buy it! Philly fans are no harder on their athlete's then in any other town ( NY, Boston, Chicago, Detroit.......Pick a city)
Mcnabb doesn't get to choose what game he wants to play in next, or for which team, Hollywood types get to pick and choose when and where and for who they work.
Just disagree.......... sports figures in many other towns, IMO, get much better treatment. I lived through Cal Ripken in Balto, he wasn't vocal, he wasn't a Rocky type and he wasn't harshly treated, his interviews were just as bland as Mcnabbs are.......................and the fans loved him.
And again we aren't so much talking about the "fans" here --- we are mostly talking about the media that shape much of the fan bases opinions. Any guess as to how many "fans" around the country think that this Mcanbb crap is true? I'm betting million upon millions do-- "cause Eckel said it's true and then Espn said well if Eckel said it's true it's true and now many people and places are saying since ESPN said it it has to be true....man that Mcnabb must be an asshole".
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