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  • #76
    I would like to comment on that but,..... I don't think I am allowed to mention #10 any more.
    http://shop.cafepress.com/content/global/img/spacer.gifOK, let's try this again...

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    • #77
      There's not player in the league that could save a team that turned the ball over 18% of the times that they had it. That's just ridiculous.
      "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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      • #78
        Originally posted by tinopuno View Post
        Popper,

        Here's what I love about the Legend of Little Howie. Somehow, from this VERY buttoned up organization, word has 'leaked out' that Howie was in charge of the 2012 draft and the first 3 picks in 2013 (he was probably called away for a family emergency after Logan was taken 3rd and was never able to return until after the draft was completed.)

        On the other hand, the legend has it that everybody BUT HOWIE was calling the shots on all the other drafts since Howie became GM in 2010....AR, Tom Gamble, Chip Kelly, Linda Lovelace, the homeless man in Cleveland who also made Haslam draft Johnny the Drunk...it was everybody except Howie, who was absolutely powerless in player selection before 2012 and after the 3rd round in 2013..

        But to be serious for a moment, the only thing we really 'know' with even a small degree of certainty is that Kelly wanted Jackson gone. Beyond that, we know nothing!

        There is plenty of room to speculate and we get the helpful unsourced 'leak' here and there. But we have nothing solid. (I'd love to know who the heck could be 'leaking' this inside information?)

        But I'm totally stumped there! How 'bout you? I can't imagine who would benefit.??????



        On an entirely different subject having NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EAGLES, I know
        you are something of a wild life expert. I happened to take a picture of this cute
        little animal yesterday in my back yard. Can you help me identify it?



        And what the Hell is Roseland doing in your backyard? Are you feeding the little rascal you 'ol softie?
        "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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        • #79
          Originally posted by FRESH View Post
          I would like to comment on that but,..... I don't think I am allowed to mention #10 any more.
          I can --- Allowed or not--- How about this scenario..... Chip and the guys discuss ways top let Jackson go. (For "culture's" sake)
          but they all agree they can't lose that much talent. Gamble sez don't worry , I got my eye on a guy that will make you forget about Jackson in a heartbeat and between him and Mac, we will be even MORE potent than last year. Then it goes down the way it went and everyone realizes that it was a big ol brainfart to let Jackson go until or even if they got a replacement of talent.

          And this whole thing stems from the Brainfart? Other than injuries, letting Jackson go for nothing and not having his replacement in the fold was probably the biggest single error of the year.

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          • #80
            "The end result will be a power structure similar to the one Bill Belichick enjoys in New England, with the head coach running the show and a right-hand man setting the table from a personnel standpoint. Roseman will be responsible for negotiating the contracts with the players Kelly wants, and managing the salary cap."

            "IF" true this does sound very much like what AR and Banner had for many years. My guess since Chip and Belcheat are close--- this is where this comes from.


            http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...artner=ya5nbcs


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            • #81
              Eagles' Marynowitz Emerges As GM Candidate

              http://www.csnphilly.com/football-ph...s-gm-candidate

              Ed Marynowitz, the Eagles’ highly regarded assistant director of player personnel, has emerged as a candidate for the team’s general manager vacancy, Pro Football Talk reported Saturday.
              The Eagles’ restructuring announced on Friday shifted general manager Howie Roseman out of the personnel department and gave head coach Chip Kelly broad powers to oversee personnel. The team announced that Kelly’s first priority is to hire a personnel executive, presumably to hold the general manager title.
              With the Senior Bowl coming on Jan. 24 in Mobile, Ala., it’s crucial that Kelly gets the scouting deparment in place as soon as possible.
              Marynowitz has been with the Eagles for just three years but according to a team source quickly earned the trust of Kelly, who became head coach two years ago.
              Marynowitz, 32, was born in Media but was a high school star quarterback at Pope John Paul II High in Boca Raton, Fla. He returned to Philly, where he was a record-setting all-America quarterback at La Salle University back when the Explorers had a football program in the early 2000s.
              Marynowitz then earned two Masters degrees — in business management and sports business management — at Central Florida and also worked in football operations with UCF's football program in 2005 and 2006.
              Marynowitz’s first NFL job was as a scouting assistant under Bill Parcells with the Dolphins in 2007, and then he spent 2008 through 2011 directing recruiting at Alabama, which was credited with the top recruiting class in Division-1 three straight years.
              The Eagles hired Marynowitz — pronounced MAN-o-witz — as assistant director of pro scouting in 2012, and last year he was given the new title of assistant director of player personnel.
              In an interview with CSNPhilly.com in August, Marynowitz said he enjoyed working with Roseman because he listens to all of his scouts and administrators.
              “It’s great for us because you feel like you have a voice,” Marynowitz said. “You do a lot of work and you do a lot of leg work, and he tells to us all the time, ‘If you’re going to be here at 5:30 in the morning, and you’re watching tape and you’re studying these players and I don’t listen to you at all, what does that say about the trust level with you?’
              “It’s a great experience for all of us because you feel like you are really a part of it.”
              One current Eagles scouting administrator who is not expected to be a candidate for the GM job, a team source said, is director of college scouting Anthony Patch, who Roseman brought to the organization in 2002 and is seen as a close Roseman ally.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                And what the Hell is Roseland doing in your backyard? Are you feeding the little rascal you 'ol softie?
                Can't help it! That's just the kind of guy I am!

                Howie is going through a rough patch and I thought he could use some shelter and maybe a shoulder to cry on.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                  I can --- Allowed or not--- How about this scenario..... Chip and the guys discuss ways top let Jackson go. (For "culture's" sake)
                  but they all agree they can't lose that much talent. Gamble sez don't worry , I got my eye on a guy that will make you forget about Jackson in a heartbeat and between him and Mac, we will be even MORE potent than last year. Then it goes down the way it went and everyone realizes that it was a big ol brainfart to let Jackson go until or even if they got a replacement of talent.

                  And this whole thing stems from the Brainfart? Other than injuries, letting Jackson go for nothing and not having his replacement in the fold was probably the biggest single error of the year.
                  Wait MD, you can't have it both ways. You rip the media right and left for what you consider to be rank speculation but is very often correctly informed by people in the know who can't go on the record. You tell everyone not to listen to it, but then give us your own rank speculation.
                  Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                  • #84
                    Just reading this thread for the first time today. I love how everyone on here was taking the "nothing to see here, everybody move on" approach.

                    Are you guys freaking nuts? Power-mad Howie from Brooklyn tries to pull rank on Kelly, gets Kelly's buddy Gamble escorted out of the building, and there's nothing to see here?

                    Kelly missed the playoffs and Roseman decided to get some revenge after Kelly dismissed him as a cap guy in his end of season media interviews. What a fucking nut Roseman is. Thank God Lurie came to his senses. I'm sure it took a declaration by Kelly that it's either me or him.

                    But nothing to see here. Everybody move along.
                    Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Leonard Tose View Post
                      Just reading this thread for the first time today. I love how everyone on here was taking the "nothing to see here, everybody move on" approach.

                      Are you guys freaking nuts? Power-mad Howie from Brooklyn tries to pull rank on Kelly, gets Kelly's buddy Gamble escorted out of the building, and there's nothing to see here?

                      Kelly missed the playoffs and Roseman decided to get some revenge after Kelly dismissed him as a cap guy in his end of season media interviews. What a fucking nut Roseman is. Thank God Lurie came to his senses. I'm sure it took a declaration by Kelly that it's either me or him.

                      But nothing to see here. Everybody move along.
                      Not buying it. I seriously doubt that any team's VP of Player Personnel gets fired and "escorted out of the building" without any prior knowledge or agreement from the team owner. So we're really supposed to think, Howie fired Gamble without letting Lurie know, because he wanted revenge because Gamble liked Chip Kelly too much, and then to show Roseman what a big mistake he made, Lurie promoted Chip Kelly?

                      How does anyone know that Howie Roseman is "power-mad"? He just signed an extension to be here until 2020 under his new title. How power-mad could he be?

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by YourPalChrisMal View Post
                        Not buying it. I seriously doubt that any team's VP of Player Personnel gets fired and "escorted out of the building" without any prior knowledge or agreement from the team owner. So we're really supposed to think, Howie fired Gamble without letting Lurie know, because he wanted revenge because Gamble liked Chip Kelly too much, and then to show Roseman what a big mistake he made, Lurie promoted Chip Kelly?

                        How does anyone know that Howie Roseman is "power-mad"? He just signed an extension to be here until 2020 under his new title. How power-mad could he be?

                        As I said in another thread, I'm sure Howie told Jeff Lurie what he planned to do with Gamble. Lurie was probably on board, but was forced to cave when faced with the prospect of losing his handpicked coach.

                        If you don't think Howie tried to pull a power play this week, there isn't much I can say to change your mind. This organization has a history under Lurie of letting the football guys go in favor of the cap guys. Heckert, Modrak, Pioli, now Gamble. There are others. Joe Banner tried pulling this stuff before as he worked his way into control over personnel. Howie learned everything from Banner.

                        That deal he signed to 2020 is just window dressing. I'm sure he is back on the phone with the Jets even as we speak.

                        And I'm not even sure this is all such a great thing. I was fine with Roseman running the draft. 2012 was a great draft. Not sure things went that smoothly this year with Kelly getting more involved. But they couldn't let Kelly walk. They are committed to this guy and they will sink or swim with him.

                        My main issue with MD and some of the others who posted here was their insistence that this was really no big deal, it was just the media blowing it all out of proportion. What happened this week was a very, very big deal.
                        Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                        • #87
                          It was, is a big deal. I thought so, and still do. What I don't know is whether it will help or hurt us in the long run.

                          I am not a big Howie fan, but I am not a total hater on him. But I also am not a fan of a coach having too much control. That worries me now.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by FRESH View Post
                            It was, is a big deal. I thought so, and still do. What I don't know is whether it will help or hurt us in the long run.

                            I am not a big Howie fan, but I am not a total hater on him. But I also am not a fan of a coach having too much control. That worries me now.
                            I think it's fine. Chip delegates well. If you ask me, I'd say that Chip probably doesn't trust Howie as much as Howie would like and Howie's feelings are hurt.
                            "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Leonard Tose View Post
                              Wait MD, you can't have it both ways. You rip the media right and left for what you consider to be rank speculation but is very often correctly informed by people in the know who can't go on the record. You tell everyone not to listen to it, but then give us your own rank speculation.
                              What?

                              I'm not charged with informing anyone about anything. There is a page in the paper where people expect opine...... And it ain't the sports page. I take no money, I don't claim to know anything more than my own thoughts, when you read any post I write you in fact know that I am doing anything more then speculating. I don't hide behind
                              "unnamed sources" and "unnamed people with knowledge of the situation". I'm not in need of filling up column space in order to feed my family. You are way off base.

                              On top of all that I never claimed that it was ALL speculation, or made up stuff........... Just many of the articles that are written as if they are facts or that they KNOW things, that they really don't. And maybe the worst part is that they never admit that they got it wrong, just like the weatherman moves on when he gets it wrong. Many of these guys are just like weathermen....... Wrong nearly as much as they are right.

                              I have no idea how you can even think to compare my posts with what passes for sports journalism these days.
                              Last edited by MDFAN; 01-03-2015, 06:37 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Leonard Tose View Post
                                As I said in another thread, I'm sure Howie told Jeff Lurie what he planned to do with Gamble. Lurie was probably on board, but was forced to cave when faced with the prospect of losing his handpicked coach.

                                If you don't think Howie tried to pull a power play this week, there isn't much I can say to change your mind. This organization has a history under Lurie of letting the football guys go in favor of the cap guys. Heckert, Modrak, Pioli, now Gamble. There are others. Joe Banner tried pulling this stuff before as he worked his way into control over personnel. Howie learned everything from Banner.

                                That deal he signed to 2020 is just window dressing. I'm sure he is back on the phone with the Jets even as we speak.

                                And I'm not even sure this is all such a great thing. I was fine with Roseman running the draft. 2012 was a great draft. Not sure things went that smoothly this year with Kelly getting more involved. But they couldn't let Kelly walk. They are committed to this guy and they will sink or swim with him.

                                My main issue with MD and some of the others who posted here was their insistence that this was really no big deal, it was just the media blowing it all out of proportion. What happened this week was a very, very big deal.
                                What the hell are you talking about?

                                Please show me where I ever said it that what just happened was't an important change???????

                                What I have been saying is that the reporting of the events was as much speculation and just made up crap as was any real information was out there............. The need to fill column space and stir the pot for more column space creates a need to speculate and look to twist any crumb or rank rumor or guess as really being some sort of truth.
                                Was this change a newsworthy story for sports in Philly? Yes. Was it worthy of the rank, non factual, pot stirring assumptivebcrap that was most of the columns? NO

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