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  • #16
    Yep. There is no question that the second part of the story line was reactionary.......to the Gamble move. If all of this stuff had been the plan, you do it all in one announcement. The second move was "dammage control".

    And when you look at who benefitted most in the second move.....that should tell you who Lurie decided was in the wrong.

    Correct?
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    • #17
      It sounds to me like the little ferret got his eyes blackened. He pictured himself as another Theo Epstein and found out who the real boss around the Lin is. Squid.
      "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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      • #18
        Hahahah I love the term "squid". So old school and so spot on.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sfphillyfan View Post
          Hahahah I love the term "squid". So old school and so spot on.
          Howie recuperates on couch in his office after losing fierce battle with Chip Kelly:


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          • #20
            Originally posted by FRESH View Post
            Lurie, peacekeeper, LOL!

            The whole thing is kind of sad, like a couple f kids fighting over a toy......or sitting there yelling "he started it!"

            I am going to guess that Howie stated it. I have no evidence of that. But, when the season imploded some finger pointing may have resulted.....and CYA was in full effect. In deflecting blame, Howie may have tried to put the focus on the Kelly/Gamble side, and ultimately let Gamble go.

            Chip says, "Screw you! I want out!"

            Then pappa Jeff comes in saying "now, now kids....we can all get along here...."

            It's as plausible as any other explanation.
            OR

            It's a hundred other versions ---- none of which the media whisperers got right.

            Just another example of the fans will run with whatever garbage the media "decides" is the truth. All through innuendo and whispers and mostly just plain old fashion wrong information.

            But people just keep biting!

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            • #21
              I'm not sure that the media got this all wrong at all. There was a big rift going on, and just because Lurid stepped in doesn't mean it's over.
              "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                I'm not sure that the media got this all wrong at all. There was a big rift going on, and just because Lurid stepped in doesn't mean it's over.
                You don't know this!

                While it may have some truth--- it could just as easily be 50 other things, my god, stop deciding that whatever is written must be fact.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                  If he quits, it's nothing different then the little scumbag who takes his ball and goes home if he can't be in charge. I don't know if he can get us a SB or not.... but I know he will be nothing more than an asshole if he leaves just cause Gamble is gone, and he and Howie don't get along.

                  Are you for real? Kelly is the bad guy because Gamble got canned by power-mad Howie Roseman? Why should Kelly have to work for somebody he doesn't respect? He can go get a good job anywhere he wants.

                  Thank God Lurie came to his senses.
                  Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                    I'm not sure that the media got this all wrong at all. There was a big rift going on, and just because Lurid stepped in doesn't mean it's over.
                    They didn't, E60. That's just what MD wants everybody to believe. MD hates the media so much that he can't even see the story right in front of his face.
                    Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                    • #25
                      Wait a minute LT, none of us knows what the story even is. You can disagree with MD but don't act like your version of things is fact anymore than his is. All we know is that the FO is diiffrerent today than it was last week and none of us will ever really know why.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by FRESH View Post
                        I believe that you are misreading things.

                        I think that Howie fired Gamble, and Kelly was pissed off about it. That much was right. Thing is, Lurie had to take sides in this little shit storm, and he ended up giving Chip the opportunity to sink or swim. Howie still in the GM role wasn't going to work for Chip, after he lost Gamble.
                        Doubt it. This isn't a Wal-Mart franchise where the store manager can fire the lead cashier without the area president knowing about it first. We're talking about the VP of Player Personnel here. I seriously doubt if Howie Roseman all by himself decided to fire Tom Gamble and escort him out of the building without first discussing it with someone like, oh I dunno, Jeff Lurie, and most likely Chip Kelly too. Maybe I'm wrong, but if that's the way an NFL franchise is run, then this Eagles team has serious issues.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                          You don't know this!

                          While it may have some truth--- it could just as easily be 50 other things, my god, stop deciding that whatever is written must be fact.
                          I agree 100%. Why is everyone buying into this drama?

                          This doesn't seem strange to me at all. The Eagles blew a huge opportunity in 2014 by making some serious personnel blunders both in the draft, and in free agency, and with Jackson, and with Cooper's contract. Why is it soooo hard for the media to believe that Tom Gamble was simply the fall guy for all of that, and that this reorganization was simply Jeff Lurie changing it up. That's what good organizations do. When things didn't go well, you step back, evaluate, and then you make changes. Those changes don't automatically mean that there's a rift, it just means the previous formula didn't work and it's time to do something different.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by YourPalChrisMal View Post
                            Doubt it. This isn't a Wal-Mart franchise where the store manager can fire the lead cashier without the area president knowing about it first. We're talking about the VP of Player Personnel here. I seriously doubt if Howie Roseman all by himself decided to fire Tom Gamble and escort him out of the building without first discussing it with someone like, oh I dunno, Jeff Lurie, and most likely Chip Kelly too. Maybe I'm wrong, but if that's the way an NFL franchise is run, then this Eagles team has serious issues.
                            Oh, I'm sure he discussed it with Jeff Lurie.
                            Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jukin View Post
                              Wait a minute LT, none of us knows what the story even is. You can disagree with MD but don't act like your version of things is fact anymore than his is. All we know is that the FO is diiffrerent today than it was last week and none of us will ever really know why.
                              Of course. We can pitch around scenarios all we want.

                              It's just that the story MD wanted to put out there was that this really much ado about nothing, and that it was only the rabble rousing media that turned it into something. Which is just preposterous.
                              Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by YourPalChrisMal View Post
                                I agree 100%. Why is everyone buying into this drama?

                                This doesn't seem strange to me at all. The Eagles blew a huge opportunity in 2014 by making some serious personnel blunders both in the draft, and in free agency, and with Jackson, and with Cooper's contract. Why is it soooo hard for the media to believe that Tom Gamble was simply the fall guy for all of that, and that this reorganization was simply Jeff Lurie changing it up. That's what good organizations do. When things didn't go well, you step back, evaluate, and then you make changes. Those changes don't automatically mean that there's a rift, it just means the previous formula didn't work and it's time to do something different.
                                Agreed, Gamble was the fall guy for all of that. But I don't believe that Chip was on board with that, and with dumping Gamble. Lurie may have known that Howie wanted to let Gamble go, but chances as high that he didn't know how much it would upset Chip.

                                Yes, yes,.......we don't KNOW exactly what happened. But we do know some pieces, and certainly the outcome, so it is certainly suitable message board material for discussion and conjecture. I appreciate the media providing us with some heads up thru the last several days.
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