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Old 04-28-2019, 10:02 PM   #1
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Some questioned the drafting of a wr:


Early in the season the Eagles were getting significant wide receiver snaps from Josh Perkins and Kamar Aiken. Later Jordan Matthews filled the void until Golden Tate joined the fray. Matthews played well enough, but that canít happen again. With the Arcega-Whiteside selection, the Eagles not only bought themselves an insurance policy but also the potential for a long term solution.
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I hear you but what will that same article be this year? Will it be about auditions during the season for LB?
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Anyone following the birds over the last few years, esp with Howie and Joe D have been either outright told or given plenty of clues as to their thoughts on the draft and on building a team. They want to draft developmental QBs. They want to be able to draft BPA; not just BPA at a position of need. They put their eggs into the OL/DL with most going to T and DE. They try to draft for future years and sign midlevel (maybe not a good term) FAs to fill holes allowing them to do those things. They sign high level FAs when the opportunity, read price/age/contract, presents itself. LBs/RBs are needed but not as much as CBs/TEs/etc and not the place to break the bank.
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Anyone following the birds over the last few years, esp with Howie and Joe D have been either outright told or given plenty of clues as to their thoughts on the draft and on building a team. They want to draft developmental QBs. They want to be able to draft BPA; not just BPA at a position of need. They put their eggs into the OL/DL with most going to T and DE. They try to draft for future years and sign midlevel (maybe not a good term) FAs to fill holes allowing them to do those things. They sign high level FAs when the opportunity, read price/age/contract, presents itself. LBs/RBs are needed but not as much as CBs/TEs/etc and not the place to break the bank.
I was just about to write the same thing ND. I'm hoping that we get a BPA at center or linebacker one of these days. Sometimes they are available at the end of the first round where I hope we finish every year. Kelce was homegrown but we had to go out and trade for JP and it has cost us a fortune every year since we did. There has never ever been any kind of hometown discount from him. The Patriots are a good example of BPA. Belichick has never drafted a wr.

The league has finally figured out LB though as 2 were drafted real early this year. It seems to me that you should address the middle before you go anywhere else and those 2 spots seemed to get ignored in the draft in the first round forever. Not Pittsburg though. They traded up from 20 to 10 to get one so there goes the BPA approach. Then again they realize the importance of the position, especially when they lost Shazier. They also drafted Ponce in the first round years ago.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:30 AM   #5
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Anyone following the birds over the last few years, esp with Howie and Joe D have been either outright told or given plenty of clues as to their thoughts on the draft and on building a team. They want to draft developmental QBs. They want to be able to draft BPA; not just BPA at a position of need. They put their eggs into the OL/DL with most going to T and DE. They try to draft for future years and sign midlevel (maybe not a good term) FAs to fill holes allowing them to do those things. They sign high level FAs when the opportunity, read price/age/contract, presents itself. LBs/RBs are needed but not as much as CBs/TEs/etc and not the place to break the bank.
Its been this way for a very long time here. Even when Andy was here that was more the philosophy. The clues to who they would draft were pretty obvious.

Jason Peters FA 2020 37 years old - Taking Dillard or another OT early was always in the plan. Not necessary Dillard as he was suppose to go higher

Nelson Agholor FA 2020, Alshon making big money, Desean older - WR was always going to be selected in this draft. I expect it in round 2. But not necessary after they took at RB with the first pick

Defensive End/Defensive tackle - They had their starters, they had a quality backup at one end position with Curry and at one DT position with Jernigan. They know that Long won't be back so they needed to add a younger DE or DT or both in this draft. They added both but not the conventional way as they dealt for Ridgeway. This was always going to happen I expected it in round 1 or 2 but 4 and a trade are fine

Safety - This was the one I thought they would address and did not. Now for 2019 its not a huge deal as Sendejo as the third safety is an ungraded over the past two years and the fact that Sullivan played better as the year went on is a good thing. We also can still have Maddox move back there. This will become an issue in 2020 as Malcolm will be 33, McCloud and Sendejo are FA.

I think the RB position was always going to get addressed in this draft, our RB were terrible last year (Mostly due to injury). So getting Howard was huge but a longer term solution along with Howard was needed.
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If Sanders hangs onto the ball he can become the solution. If not we'll be back in the same boat. You simply can't play a fumbler and I've heard that he has a problem with it. I haven't seen him play very much so all that I know about him is what I have read. I do remember that he was a pretty darn good runner though when I did see him a couple of times.
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If Sanders hangs onto the ball he can become the solution. If not we'll be back in the same boat. You simply can't play a fumbler and I've heard that he has a problem with it. I haven't seen him play very much so all that I know about him is what I have read. I do remember that he was a pretty darn good runner though when I did see him a couple of times.
He did have 5 fumbles last year. But letís not forget Brian Westbrook has fumbling issues in college, itís all things that can be fixed. What canít fix is the instincts the burst through the whole etc.
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He did have 5 fumbles last year. But letís not forget Brian Westbrook has fumbling issues in college, itís all things that can be fixed. What canít fix is the instincts the burst through the whole etc.
Maybe it can be fixed but it's a lot harder than you think. Ever since Tom Coughlin had Tiki Barber hold the ball weird everybody thinks that it's easy. He wouldn't be the first guy that lost his job over fumbles though. I guess Shady had a problem in college too but didn't once he got to the NFL. I don't know why because he has waved the ball all over the place his whole career but still manages to hold onto it. 5 fumbles a year gets you out of the NFL in a hurry. I don't care how good you are.
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Its been this way for a very long time here. Even when Andy was here that was more the philosophy. The clues to who they would draft were pretty obvious.

Jason Peters FA 2020 37 years old - Taking Dillard or another OT early was always in the plan. Not necessary Dillard as he was suppose to go higher

Nelson Agholor FA 2020, Alshon making big money, Desean older - WR was always going to be selected in this draft. I expect it in round 2. But not necessary after they took at RB with the first pick

Defensive End/Defensive tackle - They had their starters, they had a quality backup at one end position with Curry and at one DT position with Jernigan. They know that Long won't be back so they needed to add a younger DE or DT or both in this draft. They added both but not the conventional way as they dealt for Ridgeway. This was always going to happen I expected it in round 1 or 2 but 4 and a trade are fine

Safety - This was the one I thought they would address and did not. Now for 2019 its not a huge deal as Sendejo as the third safety is an ungraded over the past two years and the fact that Sullivan played better as the year went on is a good thing. We also can still have Maddox move back there. This will become an issue in 2020 as Malcolm will be 33, McCloud and Sendejo are FA.

I think the RB position was always going to get addressed in this draft, our RB were terrible last year (Mostly due to injury). So getting Howard was huge but a longer term solution along with Howard was needed.
Eh, for the most part I would say I have to disagree with you.
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Eh, for the most part I would say I have to disagree with you.
Which part of it, taking an offensive tackle to replace a 37 year old? Not taking a safety? Taking 3 straight offensive players?

Just curious.
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