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  • #16
    Sorry I got the numbers wrong about the meeting. I assumed that it was the large group that he addressed when he first assembled everybody. Regardless, it was a dumb thing to say in front of a room full of people, especially a Democrat who couldn't wait for him to come out with one of his daily beauties and Trump as usual gave him the ammo that he needed. I'm not so sure that one of the "real" Republicans wouldn't have leaked that out either.

    As for bringing in people from other countries I have never, ever heard somebody say "I think it's a good idea". What I do here is "why is it always us that has to do it". I just haven't other than liberal politicians. Maybe I just travel with the wrong people.

    Finally, he met with all of the European leaders, Britain, Canada, Mexico, Israel, China, Japan, Norway and I'm sure that I'm forgetting a few. That's a hell of a lot of leaders. A lot of it was trade deals, and a lot of it was telling these people in NATO that if the didn't pay up they were out. He even struck deals for past money that they owe. For a guy that can't put 3 words together without pissing someone off with stupid comments he sure does accomplish a hell of a lot more than our smooth talkers have in the past.

    I think that he's a one term President and I think that he'll straighten out the economy. He has a lot of common sense ideas (especially for a guy that lacks it in so many areas). I have to admit that I do like some of the straight talk though and not the usual nicey, nicey political bullshit that I'm used to hearing while I'm getting it shoved up my ass.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
      Yeah that is me--- I don't really put any effort into it---- Your the one that worries about what he sez, Worrying about some stupid airline claim that makes no difference in anybodies life!

      The rest is just more left wing propaganda--- this country was going to hell in a hand-basket under the Obamas. Korea? gimme a break--- the real reason we are here is because the last 3 presidents did nothing but cow tow and give NK money to promise not to get Nukes. That worked real well. Appeasement didn't work before WWII and it won't work now. That fact that many of the globalist leftist world leaders you speak of that you want to claim hate Trump is the exact reason I think his outlook is in fact working!! I see Europe crashing downhill in their attempts at world kumbai. Ask the last remaining ISIS members how Trump change the the rules of engagement (at least giving the Generals and commanders a much more free reign)... oh wait you may have to hunt for one to talk too.

      As for the economy-- please you wanna wait, go ahead, I'll take my wins now and for all 8 years. If you refuse to open your eyes and see the DIRECTION this country is now heading then that's on you.... but do not ever call me uninformed or that I refuse to put effort into it!!!!!

      Just because I don't see things your way --- that makes me wrong?????? Typical..... like I said it's real easy for you to sit outside both mainstream sides and nit pick .... maybe that is where the lack of "effort" comes in.
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      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/it-l...eign-cash.html

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      Stand for the flag you assholes!

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      • #18
        Then there's this, there sure were a lot of scum bags getting away with this shit under Obama! No More!!!!! Human trafficking arrests Trump 1yr. vs. Obama 8yrs. anyone see a difference?


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        • #19
          I heard both of those on CNBC Zep. I wish that somehow we could stop all of the outsourcing that is going on too. It can be done. Maybe not being able to deduct their salaries would be a start.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
            I heard both of those on CNBC Zep. I wish that somehow we could stop all of the outsourcing that is going on too. It can be done. Maybe not being able to deduct their salaries would be a start.
            One thing at a time. There was no doubt in my mind that Trump could get the economic machine that the U.S. is and was rolling again. The train has left the station!
            Stand for the flag you assholes!

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            • #21
              These pieces of shit are next on the Trump hit list!

              https://www.westernjournal.com/calif...ound-illegals/
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              • #22
                Alibaba is the Chinese version of Amazon

                Trump-Ma Honeymoon Ends As Alibaba Lands On U.S. Blacklist
                Jan. 18, 2018 5:51 PM ET|33 comments| About: Alibaba Group Holding Limited (BABA), Includes: MGI
                Doug Young
                Doug Young
                Foreign companies, long only, tech
                Young's China Business Blog

                (2,621 followers)
                Summary
                The inclusion of Alibaba’s Taobao marketplace on the latest edition of a US blacklist for piracy signals the US is taking a tougher line on trade issues.

                That follows another setback for Jack Ma earlier this month when a plan by his Ant Financial saw its plan for a major US acquisition crushed by the Trump administration.

                However you slice it, these two cases do appear to imply future cases will be given higher scrutiny, though it would be an oversimplification to call this just protectionism.

                What a difference a year makes. It was just about this time a year ago that Alibaba (NYSE:BABA) founder Jack Ma scored a major coup by becoming the first major Chinese business leader to score a visit with incoming US President Donald Trump (previous post). The pair was all smiles back then, with Ma trumpeting a plan to create 1 million American jobs by helping US businesses selling their products into China over Alibaba's popular e-commerce platforms.

                Fast forward to the present, where Ma isn't smiling anymore, and Alibaba has even taken the unusual step of accusing Trump of making the company into a scapegoat in a growing tide of US protectionism. The abrupt turnabout hinges on two major developments, the most recent being the placement of Alibaba's consumer-to-consumer (C2C) Taobao website on Washington's annual "notorious" list of marketplaces with rampant trafficking in pirated goods. That follows another setback for Ma earlier this month when a plan by his Ant Financial saw its plan for a major US acquisition crushed by the Trump administration.

                Ma is probably justified in his outrage at the two recent setbacks, and I suspect that he feels personally betrayed after his buddy-buddy meeting with Trump last year. I personally might beg to differ slightly, for reasons I'll explain shortly. But the bottom line is that Trump certainly intends to play harder ball with China when it comes to trade issues, which some might say is justified, given the relatively lopsided relationship that now exists.

                Let's begin by looking at the latest developments, starting with the inclusion of Taobao on the latest edition of the "Notorious Markets" list published annually by the US Trade Representative's office late last week (English article). We should start by saying the inclusion certainly isn't a first. Taobao appeared in 2011 on the list, which tries to shame marketplaces with trafficking in pirated goods. But then it suddenly disappeared in 2012 after an aggressive campaign by Alibaba, aimed at showing how it was fighting piracy.

                Many foreign brands cried foul at the removal, saying pirated goods were still rampant in the marketplace, and lobbied for Taobao's return to the list. A report from a Chinese commerce regulator criticizing Taobao didn't help the company's case, and the site returned to the list last year. Since then Alibaba has been bending over backward to try to show it is seriously tackling the problem.

                Still a Problem
                I'm not a user of Taobao, but people I know say it's still pretty easy to find pirated goods on the site, though you have to use certain tricks and it's definitely harder than the past. The reality is that traffickers in pirated goods are a slippery bunch, as they can be shut down one day, only to reappear in the marketplace the next under a new name. That's one of the biggest drawbacks to Alibaba's business model, and why most other operators avoid this kind of open marketplace and instead sell their own products direct to consumers.

                Regardless of the reality, Alibaba has lashed out at the decision and said it has become a "scapegoat" in "the rise of trade protectionism" by the US. That's quite a strong language coming from Alibaba, which is more used to talking about win-wins and how its e-commerce platforms are bringing the world closer together.

                The strong language was no doubt fueled in part by Ma's setback a few weeks ago, which also came as a major blow to Ant Financial's global expansion dreams. That setback saw Ant rebuffed on national security grounds in its $1.2-billion bid to buy US money transfer specialist MoneyGram (NYSE:MGI) (previous post). Ant only said it abandoned the deal after it became clear it wouldn't get the national security clearance, though observers said the concern was over protection of the huge volumes of user data held by MoneyGram.

                In both instances, I have to give my own opinion that the US case wasn't completely without justification. The "notorious" list is based on the presence of piracy on a website, not the intent of the site's operator. Likewise, Chinese companies are famous for their fast-and-loose use of their user data, which often includes selling such data to third parties without user consent.

                But Alibaba probably doesn't want to hear those kinds of explanations, and instead is simply crying foul due to this kind of stricter scrutiny. In that sense, I do somewhat agree that China has in some ways received easier treatment from the US in the past on this kind of trade issue than it gives to US companies in similar situations. However you slice it, these two cases do appear to imply future cases will be given higher scrutiny, though it would be an oversimplification to call this just protectionism.
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