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    Doug Pederson says Eagles injuries forced him to cross out a lot of calls on his play sheet for the Falcons game
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    Not hard to believe.

    By Brandon Lee Gowton@BrandonGowton Sep 16, 2019, 7:29pm EDT


    Doug Pederson held his day-after press conference on Monday following the Eagles’ Sunday night loss to the Atlanta Falcons. Philadelphia’s head coach didn’t offer much in the way of injury updates, unfortunately, but he did touch on a number of topics worth addressing here.

    Crossing out plays
    Pederson was asked about how much losing Alshon Jeffery, DeSean Jackson, and Dallas Goedert early in the game changed the offensive game plan. You might be able to guess the answer!

    If affects it. It affects it a lot. If you were to look at my call sheet this morning, you would see a lot of scratch-outs on plays and different things.

    One thing that I said after the game, too, is with [Eagles offensive coordinator] Mike Groh, [Eagles offensive line/run game coordinator] Jeff Stoutland, and the offensive staff making the adjustments we needed to make and coaching those young guys up, Mack Hollins, J.J. [Arcega-Whiteside]. And what’s interesting, if you watch the game as we did this morning, I mean, Zach [Ertz] is telling guys where to go. Nelly [Nelson Agholor] is telling -- we’re moving guys. Our pieces are moving and we’re putting guys in positions that didn’t practice in those positions during the week and still had a chance at the end of the game. Took the lead and had a chance.

    My hat’s off to those guys for hanging in there.

    I don’t know about you but I still can’t get over how ridiculous it is that the Eagles essentially lost Jeffery, Jackson, and Goedert — a trio that combined for 15 receptions, 221 yards, and four touchdowns in Week 1 — in PREGAME WARMUPS. None of these guys were on the injury report leading up to Sunday night. And it’s not even like they got hurt over the course of the game, which is to be expected from such a dangerous sport. Three key offensive starters getting hurt while jogging around on the field before the game is an entirely new level of bad luck.


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    I’m told DeSean Jackson & Alshon Jeffery did not feel comfortable pregame. Dallas Goedert had calf issue pregame, didnt play at all. You dont want calf to pop

    Alshon Jeffery played 6 snaps with calf. DeSean Jackson 11 snaps with groin

    I’m told DeSean is hoping to play Sunday

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    A key feature of the Eagles’ offense heading into 2019 was their ability to use two different personnel packages: 11 (three wide receivers) and 12 (two tight ends). They have the talent to be an effective offense from either deployment, which isn’t something every team can claim.

    Losing Goedert immediately took 12 personnel off the board on Sunday night. Now, the Eagles deserve some blame for not being better prepared to handle an injury at tight end since Goedert and Zach Ertz are the only two players at their position on the 53-man roster. The team did have Alex Ellis as a third tight end for Week 1 but they waived him in order to promote cornerback Craig James from the practice squad. Pederson explained that decision:

    We had confidence in our two tight ends. We went in with a game plan of executing with a lot of the play-action pass game with two tight ends, the run game with two tight ends. It just felt comfortable with both guys.

    And then in our 11-personnel, having Zach and Dallas working there. And then just having the extra DB just available on special teams and then if needed in the secondary, just keeping that extra guy out.

    It’s also difficult to blame injuries and injuries alone for the team’s slow start considering they had the worst first quarter scoring offense in the NFL last year and had zero first quarter points in Week 1 this season.

    Still, Pederson has a valid gripe. It’s not like the Eagles had much time to game plan knowing they weren’t going to have Jeffery, Jackson, and Goedert. The coaching staff had to make major adjustments on the fly. And despite this, they were still in good position to win the game if not for Nelson Agholor’s egregiously dropping a go-ahead touchdown pass.

    Injuries happen in the NFL. It’s the nature of the game. What happened in Atlanta, though? That’s just not normal. How do you possibly prepare for losing three key starters in warmups?

    Taking accountability
    Kudos to Pederson for taking the blame for the Eagles’ slow starts.

    Q. Slow starts were prevalent last year, when you self-scouted last off-season, what did you find was the No. 1 reason for not scoring points in the first quarter, and how have you tried to address that this year?

    DOUG PEDERSON: I just have to find the magical plays.

    Q. Do you think it’s plays or is it more execution?

    DOUG PEDERSON: It’s always the plays. That’s on me. I have to do a better job.

    The plays aren’t the only issue. Execution could afford to better. But Pederson made the right call to put it on himself and not on his players. He even threw the “better job” Andy Reid-ism in there.

    Now actually go fix it, Doug. It’s overdue.

    Not sticking with the run game
    It was disappointing to see the Eagles struggle to run the ball effectively against an Atlanta defense that ranked 32nd in opponent yards per carry in 2018 and struggled again in Week 1 this year. Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard combined for just 46 yards on 18 carries (2.6 average). Their longest runs on the night? Five yards each.

    Pederson discussed how the absence of 12 personnel hurt the Eagles’ running game:

    Q. What was the biggest reason why you went away from the run? Was it Dallas Goedert’s absence, the way the game was playing out, a combination of both?

    DOUG PEDERSON: A little bit of both. We struggled to run the ball, something we kind of pride ourselves on. Last week, I might have mentioned that we were going to face a much better Atlanta Falcon defense than we saw in week one. That’s just -- this is the NFL and a lot of pride on that side and they are well-coached.

    So we knew that going into this football game. We were going to try to run and try to establish it and we struggled a little bit there. We have to make those corrections.

    That’s a big part, too, with a lot of the personnel changes, with tight ends and things like that, that got us a little bit away from it. I’m not going to make an excuse, but it does affect it just a little bit.

    Praise for Carson Wentz
    A big theme following Sunday’s loss was Eagles players having respect for Wentz nearly willing the team to victory despite less than ideal circumstances. Pederson similarly praised the team’s starting quarterback:

    Q. Do you think that QB Carson Wentz getting hit so much early affected his play and how do you think he played overall, and do you factor the punishment into that?

    DOUG PEDERSON: Obviously, this is a physical, violent game. Quarterbacks are going to get hit. We saw two quarterbacks in the league yesterday get hit, or one get hit and one on a throw. So it’s part of the game. It’s one thing you love about Carson is his toughness. You’d love to see him, maybe throw the ball a bit sooner here and there. But the fact that he performed well yesterday and really kept us in this football game -- the throw to Mack [Hollins] in the fourth quarter was unbelievable. For him to escape the pocket like he did a couple times was unbelievable. And those are things you can’t really coach. You don’t really teach those things. That’s just natural, God-given instinct. It’s hard to take that away from a player and yet, at the same time, you still want him to protect himself the best he can, but he’s making plays for you and I’m not going to take that from him.
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    Is it just bad luck?

    Because it seems to me that this team has more than it's fair share of injuries. At some point, is it fair to say that they may need to look at the trainers? Who is taking care of these players? Who's in charge of their stretching routines? I know injuries are part of the game, but when you lose 3 guys in the pregame warmups, it might be time for some self evaluation.

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    • #3
      Said that last year. I would put the strength and conditioning crew under a microscope. Bad luck is Brees hitting a defenders hand and coming up with ligament damage. You just can't attribute all of these calf/groin/quad type injuries to bad luck
      Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
      Hope is not a strategy
      RIP

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      • #4
        I would also add that if the Eagles want to run with two TEs they should have an OLineman like Vitai able to go in as a blocking TE. Of course he has to limit his penalties
        Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
        Hope is not a strategy
        RIP

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        • #5
          Didn't they clean out their trainers after the Chipster was shown the door?
          "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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          • #6
            I think they need better stretching and hydration techniques. They went on anew turf and did not properly account for the field conditions. One thin people are forgetting is Atlanta left the dome open. I don't care how much air conditioned they have humidity will still be there. remember Kelce and Isaac on sideline with fan blowing? Why would you need that if ac is on in building?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NoDakIggle View Post
              I would also add that if the Eagles want to run with two TEs they should have an OLineman like Vitai able to go in as a blocking TE. Of course he has to limit his penalties
              Or maybe more than two TEs on the roster!
              That’s the part that pisses me off. Ertz really struggles with blocking.
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              • #8
                A good leader will always take the blame for a loss. That is why we are so blessed to have Doug as our head coach. Look Sunday night was a perfect storm of injuries. When you lose three critical skill players by the 10th play you run on offense, its hard to adjust quickly to. Add in your offense line partically Suemolo was playing below average and its a recipe for a loss.

                The one thing I will say and this is why Doug is so good, is by the time they hit the 4th quarter the offense was starting to roll with the make shift wide outs and only one tight end.

                Do we need to get better in the 1st quarter, yes we do, especially in the penalty area. It seems like every week they start to roll on offense and then they get a holding penalty or jump offsides and all of a sudden its 2nd 20 or 2nd 15. That is not easy to overcome in this league. I also think that Groh needs to go as the o coordinator. Its pretty obvious the first 15 scripted plays are not very good and have not been since he started as the o coordinator.
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                • #9
                  Groh is absolutely getting some heat. It is evident they miss Reich and the QB coach who I can't recall right now. He got fired 20 minutes after arriving in Min. I would hope Doug is looking closely at his staff. I am in the minority I would guess but I am not a great fan of Duce as an assistant coach
                  Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
                  Hope is not a strategy
                  RIP

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RobLew65 View Post
                    I think they need better stretching and hydration techniques. They went on anew turf and did not properly account for the field conditions. One thin people are forgetting is Atlanta left the dome open. I don't care how much air conditioned they have humidity will still be there. remember Kelce and Isaac on sideline with fan blowing? Why would you need that if ac is on in building?
                    This is their 3rd training staff in the last three years. I don't think it's them. I just think that it's our Philly curse. Even when we won the SB we were a wounded Bunch but never have I seen what happened Thursday night before.
                    "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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