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Originally posted by bird is da wordi just sensed a change in attitude...they backed off and the play calling reflected it. you don't go from dominating the line of scrimmage to looking lost with a change in attitude.
play to the whistle...the end of the game. they didn't finish the game
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you are right on...it starts with the coaches. I have never once seen any team benefit from a prevent defense. the purpose is to not allow a big play. all it does is give the offense the opportunity to dink it down the field 5 to 15 yards at a time.
i first blame the coaches...and then i blame the vets like trotter, dawkins, and mcnabb. those guys should know better then to back off
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Originally posted by bird is da wordyou are right on...it starts with the coaches. I have never once seen any team benefit from a prevent defense. the purpose is to not allow a big play. all it does is give the offense the opportunity to dink it down the field 5 to 15 yards at a time.
i first blame the coaches...and then i blame the vets like trotter, dawkins, and mcnabb. those guys should know better then to back off
If you're going to blame specific players, lay the blame on Hansen, Wynn, Michael Lewis, Westbrook, the OL on 4th-and-1, etc. for not being able to execute.
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Originally posted by bird is da wordthere were some intangibles going on and this team clearly backed off...that comes down squarely on the leadership in uniform.
Sounds like you are just throwing around cliches so you can blame as many people as possible.
And why not the best players on the team - that makes sense.
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chris...please. they were up by 17 points in the 4th quarter...if that isn't backing off i don't know what would be. this was a total breakdown. that is the only way you lose a game like this. how can there not be blame to be laid on the players...and that starts with the leaders. that is why they are "leaders".
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Originally posted by bird is da wordchris...please. they were up by 17 points in the 4th quarter...if that isn't backing off i don't know what would be. this was a total breakdown. that is the only way you lose a game like this. how can there not be blame to be laid on the players...and that starts with the leaders. that is why they are "leaders".
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Originally posted by bird is da wordhow does a play call effect line play...they went from dominating the line of scrimmage to being dominated. the d line looked very average at the end of the game. line play is all attitude and they lost it
Plus, I love when a team stops playing well, the fans of that team say they "lost their aggressiveness". How much do you want to bet that Giants fans are saying that the Giants "found their aggressiveness"? So which was it? Truth is, both are human-nature finding cerebral reasons for physical acts. The fact is, they didn't execute AT ALL, and the Giants did. Part of that was play-calling, part of it was bad luck - and let's not lose sight of something that hasn't been brought up in any thread that I've read - the Giants are damn good.
You're fooling yourself if you think the Giants are a team not able to score a lot of points in a short period of time. So, some credit also has to go to the fact that the Giants are good team.
I'm still trying to figure out - after naming literally more than a dozen reasons why they lost that you are focusing on Trotter, Dawkins and McNabb - the 3 players who actually didn't screw up in this game.
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I just watched the tape. The Giants got each and every freaking bounce of the ball. ONE of those doesn't bounce their way, they don't win. ONE.
If there's a team out there that's banking on getting the lucky bounces every week, well let's just say I don't think that's a very good long-term strategy.
We lost. No doubt. But we also kicked the living shit out of that team. We beat them down. Doesn't count for anything in the win / loss column, but that team is not better than ours.
Bring on the Niners.
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Originally posted by EFDI just watched the tape. The Giants got each and every freaking bounce of the ball. ONE of those doesn't bounce their way, they don't win. ONE.
If there's a team out there that's banking on getting the lucky bounces every week, well let's just say I don't think that's a very good long-term strategy.
We lost. No doubt. But we also kicked the living shit out of that team. We beat them down. Doesn't count for anything in the win / loss column, but that team is not better than ours.
Bring on the Niners.
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