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Old 01-31-2011, 02:39 AM   #11
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And we hired Jauron from the outside, and let him go too. Not sure there is much to draw from here. The Eagles obviously had terrific coaches for some time -- there are now five head coaches in the league who coached under Reid here, I think. Most of those probably would have made terrific DCs... Spagnuolo sure did. I think we just had too many good coaches leave too fast, and there wasn't much left to promote "in-house". From a lot of players comments, McDermott was/is a very good coach... but he probably just needed more time to really be a DC. He was probably the best defensive coach the Eagles had left at the time, that was all. Really, it sounds like the Eagles hired maybe two bad coaches -- Segrest and Shuey. That's not really a trend or indictment of a philosophy. And really, I've heard nothing about how good or bad Shuey is even... we didn't care when Spagnuolo left since the LBs were mostly terrible under his coaching, but turns out it was more likely the quality of the players in that case and not the coach. The "promote-from-within" system would have been great if we still had Spagnuolo/Harbaugh/Frazier/Rivera to choose from.

But, at this juncture, it sounds like we had little defensive coaching talent left to promote, so you have no choice but to go outside the team. I wonder if they already have a feel for who the DC will be, and if that DC already knows a couple of coaches he wants to bring with him.

I think this is the most likely scenario, the decision has already been made.
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They have not been able to successfully replace that high level of talent that was here a decade ago.
Speaking defensively, this is 100% correct. It was that failure which has held the Eagles back.
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Not sure I agree...I mean how does one become "qualified" to do a particular job?

They can either learn at the hand of a good teacher and experienced pro and/or learn on the fly in the actual position....McDermott did both which is why I think he still could become a better coach with more experience and success, he's already a pretty decent one.

Segrest and Shuey, I would be more inclined to agree especially with Segrest....we tried him at ST coach, failed and then on the D, failed. He either never picked up the coaching component or the tactical knowledge or both....Shuey was a young guy who had worked up the ladder, but again had little experience and will need more time to grow...

I do think it's a bad sign that Segrest was permitted to fail at two position coaching duties. He was awful as the ST coach, and then was given another chance to fail at a very important position. That's the kind of thing that makes me worry about an organization becoming too insular.
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Speaking defensively, this is 100% correct. It was that failure which has held the Eagles back.

I agree that it's mostly on the defensive side. On offense they've held onto Castillo and brought Marty M. in to replace Childress, so they've had some continuity there.
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