AW - tight ends

[NoDakIggle]

AW or Thoughtprocess. do you have any feel for TE Sinnott (sp?) out of K State. Johnson would probably be preferable but I like the looks of Sinnott even though he isn’t an ideal size.

[ThoughtProcess]

AW or Thoughtprocess. do you have any feel for TE Sinnott (sp?) out of K State. Johnson would probably be preferable but I like the looks of Sinnott even though he isn’t an ideal size.

Hey, sorry for the delayed response; working the night shift this week.

I haven't seen him play at all. Here is some of what's on PFN. Judging from this, he'd be a good fit into what Kellen Moore had in the past: a good hybrid TE/FB type or a move-type TE.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/b...scouting-2024/

Ben Sinnott Draft Profile and Measurements

• Height: 6’4″
• Weight: 254 pounds
• Length: 32″
• Wingspan: 78 1/8″
• Hand: 9 3/8″
• Position: Tight End
• School: Kansas State
• Current Year: Redshirt Junior

Coming out of high school in Waterloo, Iowa, Sinnott was a zero-star recruit who had to carve out a place on Kansas State’s roster as a walk-on. Now, he’s a likely Day 2 pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, who’s coming off a season as a Mackey Award semifinalist.

At this point, the results speak loudly in Sinnott’s favor. After being used primarily as a fullback in 2021, he emerged as a quality receiving weapon with 31 catches for 447 yards and four scores in 2022.

Then, in 2023, Sinnott became one of the most productive TE prospects in the nation, with 49 catches for 676 yards and six scores. Sinnott ultimately earned an invite to the Reese’s Senior Bowl, where he only continued to impress evaluators.

Now, in a TE class that appears unsettled past Georgia’s Brock Bowers, Sinnott has the tools to be an early-impact player for one NFL team.

Sinnott’s Scouting Report

Strengths

• Sports a well-built, compact frame with great overall mass.
• Fleet-footed accelerator with rapid movement to quickly stress defenders vertically.
• Relatively elastic, energetic, and flexible athlete for his size, with great sinking capacity.
• Has the short-area flexibility to stack sharp direction changes in succession.
• Has enough speed to stretch seams vertically and splice his way open past zone DBs.
• Can separate independently with angle freedom, route tempo, and deliberate fakes.
• Actively weaponizes agility and foot speed on stutter steps, off-setting DBs at stems.
• Has a vast route tree for a TE, as well as usage flexibility across all alignments.
• Natural contortionist in-stride, who also flashes high-level instincts on difficult catches.
• Very natural hands-catcher extending beyond his frame, with clutch focus and resolve.
• Can vary his hand technique, placement, and lean based on defender leverage.
• Effectively and authoritatively uses targeted physicality to pry past DBs at stems.
• Physical RAC threat with great contact balance, leg churn, and urgency moving upfield.
• The versatile blocker can be used as an H-back, on motions, pulling, or leading in space.
• Alert, technically sound blocker whose flexibility allows for quick angle correction.

Weaknesses

• Middling length can limit his catch radius on high passes at times.
• Doesn’t quite have elite explosiveness and can’t always create separation out of stems.
• Doesn’t have the elite sink on whip routes and delayed digs, experiencing hitches at times.
• Is occasionally over-reliant on shoves and physicality to separate versus man coverage.
• At times, can better use his explosiveness to press into stems before sinking laterally.
• Can be prone to occasional focus drops when gathering passes over the middle.
• Sometimes comes overtop high passes too much, causing instability with his hands.
• At times, lacks the hand strength to maintain possession when directly contested.
• Lacks quantifiably elite creative freedom and evasive ability as a RAC threat.
• Anchor strength and power exertion as a blocker can still improve.
• At times, lurches past his center of gravity as a blocker to compensate for length.

Current Draft Projection and Summary

Sinnott grades out as a top-75 prospect in the 2024 NFL Draft, worthy of mid-to-late Day 2 consideration. He’s in contention for one of the top tight end spots behind Georgia’s Brock Bowers, and he should be a quality offensive contributor early on in his career.

Sinnott’s profile is one of the most well-rounded at TE in recent memory, and that includes previous drafts. He might not be quantifiably elite in any one area, but he’s a smooth and energetic athlete with good explosiveness and speed, a nuanced route runner with a vast route tree, and a capable hands-catcher with sharp instincts.

What separates Sinnott from the rest of the 2024 NFL Draft TE class, however, is his complete, all-encompassing usage versatility. He can line up in-line, in the slot, in stacked alignments, and at H-back in the backfield. From any spot, his route tree makes him an unpredictable cover, and he can be weaponized as a blocker through motions as well.

There are still ways for Sinnott to keep improving. While he has good targeted physicality, finishing through contact can be an issue. He also has room to press and sink on sharper route transitions more efficiently and can improve his play strength as a blocker.

[ThoughtProcess]

Theo Johnson is superior as an athlete (size/speed prospect), but Sinnott is no slouch either. And because of his experience playing as a FB/TE type, the Eagles could utilize him down by the goal line in plays designed off of the Brotherly Shove formation. He'd be a good selection if the Eagles made it, IMO.

[NoDakIggle]

Yea I’m just not sure Johnson will be around for the birds because of other needs and I think Sinnott looked pretty good
Thanks for the reply

[musicman]

First off, I think Barkley is going to be awesome and the O will be spectacular. Right now!! You add a WR like Worthy and a good TE to this O and we’ll put 60 or 70 on someone. I am really interested to see where Johnson goes. He is big, but has great balance and agility. He’ll run a MFer over too. He’s like a DE who can catch

[andrewaters]

NoDak... sorry. I just got back from a golf weekend in Atlanta so I am late to reply.

Sinnott to me is probably just another Jack Stoll. For the position, I would classify him as average in size and maybe average in movement. He can run reasonably fast in a straight line but he is not a great mover that is going to make a person miss a tackle or be elusive. Do you draft average on Day 2? Maybe... but I wouldn't. To me he is a 5th/6th round draft pick.

He had great numbers this year no doubt but the B12 is a scoring conference and K-State had a pretty damn good offense. K-State had a number of NFL level OL and they had a quarterback tandem of Will Howard and Avery Johnson who are both great movers and throwers who could prolong a play so I think that speaks to him being that safety valve.

If I were the Eagles, I'd take a look at this kid from KU actually Mason Fairchild towards the end of the draft. He is not quite as big as Sinnott but he is a way better mover and can catch and run.

I guess to completely answer your question, I'd take Theo Johnson in the third round if he is there. But I would not take Sinnott until late in the draft and I really like Fairchild a lot more.

To me, if you are going to draft a TE he either needs to be very big or very fast. He needs an elite trait to get open or just be open because of his size.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...hild-TE-Kansas

[ThoughtProcess]

What are the thoughts on Tip Reiman? Besides him thinking birds aren't real, of course! (Does that automatically disqualify him from getting drafted by Arizona, Baltimore, Philly, or Seattle? ) He's pretty athletic, as evidenced by his Relative Athletic Score (RAS).

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2...ormers-by-ras/

Tip Reiman, Illinois: 9.93 RAS


Considering Tip Reiman tips the scales — pun intended — at 271 pounds, his 40-time (4.64 seconds), 10-yard split (1.55 seconds), broad jump (10’1”), and 3-cone drill (7.02 seconds) were all very impressive.

Don’t forget to factor in his 28 reps in the bench press event, and you can quickly appreciate how athletic Reiman is for a tight end prospect.

His pass-catching production at Illinois doesn’t measure in comparison to some of the move TEs of this class, but Reiman definitely improved his draft stock with his performance at the NFL Combine and could present a great Draft Day value.

RAS Results for TE at the 2024 NFL Combine

• Theo Johnson: 9.99
• Tip Reiman: 9.93
• Ben Sinnott: 9.75
• Jared Wiley: 9.53
• Tanner McLachlan: 9.39
• Jaheim Bell: 8.49
• Cade Stover: 8.33
• Ja’Tavion Sanders: 8.06
• Brevyn Spann-Ford: 7.58
• Dallin Holker: 7.36
• Trey Knox: 4.18