Phillips

[NoDakIggle]

Howie swings a deal with Miami for edge rusher Phillips and his six sacks. For a third We kept the Jets third and gave them ours.

[NoDakIggle]

Don’t know how much PT he will get against GB but I don’t think it will take him long in Vic’s system

[musicman]

Thanks Howie !! Phillips has some excellent numbers on a pretty poor unit. Those numbers could be a bit better on a good D. To get him for essentially an early 4th is a good deal.

[andrewaters]

Phillips is a free agent in the offseason so if the Eagles let him walk they could get a compensatory pick for him. Howie is a genius. And the Dolphins are clearly tanking now.

[FairOaks]

He's played for Fangio before. For a few games before getting injured.

Sounds like the Dolphins are paying virtually all of his salary to get that 3rd round pick (we are paying just half the vet minimum, or a bit over 500K).

[musicman]

Was looking at one of his highlight videos. 6’5 263 and it looks like he plays the run well and gets lots of pressure. Next to Carter and Davis, he could be special

[NoDakIggle]

Yea I don’t see any downside. Not getting beat up in the salary or cap and the birds kept the better of the two third round picks and he’ll be a free agent so Howie can negotiate a contract rather than being saddled with one. Injury possibility? Yea maybe but I don’t see the downside.

[FairOaks]

Was looking at one of his highlight videos. 6’5 263 and it looks like he plays the run well and gets lots of pressure. Next to Carter and Davis, he could be special

Achilles and ACL injuries the past two years, so pray for his health

[dawkins20]

Similar body and play as Sweat was. I like it! Would love to resign him and have him stay past just this year

[andrewaters]

He is not going to last long with a knee and Achilles rehab already but Josh Sweat was playing I think on a 2 or maybe even 3 ACL injuries.

We don't need Phillips to be an every down player. We need him to platoon with Smith, Hunt, Graham and him. Plus, we flip Ojomo and Carter out there. We need fastballs and that is what he is.

[taz]

Not a fan of this one at all. A day 2 pick for a guy who has clearly not recovered from back to back years of Achilles tear then an ACL tear. Most of his pressure this year has come rushing over the Guard and Center as a stand up linebacker. We have a darn good one in Baun who can do that. I hope Howie is right on this. Otherwise he will just be another in a long line of bad in season trades, Golden Tate, Robert Quinn, Genard Avery, Kary Vincent to name a few. At least he did get Jay Ajayi but that was many moons ago.

Also before we think we will get a comp pick when he leaves., His numbers don't scream big signing guy. He won't even get Josh Sweat money. At think at best we will get a 5th rounder in 2027 and that is if he can come in and get 4 or 5 sacks in the next 9 games.

We really needed someone that IS vs someone who could be. I will tell this, Phillips may have trouble even getting on the field. Uche has better pressure and hurry numbers, Nolan Smith when he returns is clearly our best rusher and Hunt has been starting all year. I doubt they stunt his growth, especially since he has been playing pretty well lately. Oh and BG is going to need some snaps.

The real loser in all of this is Jihad Campbell who probably takes a seat on the bench now. Patrick Johnson probably gets cut to.

[andrewaters]

Interesting take on Phillips Taz. I think he will play 30-35 plays a game and be impactful but we shall see.

[Eagle60]

Unless he plays like Nadamaka Sue did It won't I make a lot of sense. I hate to see Campbell on the bench if that's going to be the result.

[taz]

Interesting take on Phillips Taz. I think he will play 30-35 plays a game and be impactful but we shall see.

Really hope you are right. Would love to be wrong on this one. I know a few folks who are Dolphins fans and they have said we got fleeced. He is not the same player he was before the injuries.

I don't see 30-35 snaps available unless you are going to stunt Campbell and Hunts growth. Figure 45 each for Smith and Hunt. Gives you about 30-40 snaps to divide between Uche (who has better pressure and hurry rates than Phillips) BG and Phillips. Also they are have to get Campbell on the field some. We gave up a day 2 pick for a guy who honestly should only get 10-15 snaps a game. That is just a bad addition.

Like I said we needed an IS guy, a guy like Trey Henderickson not a could be. We have a bunch of could be's.

One caveat. Smith has not had his practice window open. Just like when we got Carter, we didn't know that Epps was hurt. This could be a sign that Smith is not ready knor is close to ready to come back. If that is the case the deal makes more sense but still is an severe overpay.

[musicman]

Unless he plays like Nadamaka Sue did It won't I make a lot of sense. I hate to see Campbell on the bench if that's going to be the result.

sorry, but I think Campbell needs to earn his way. I think he is too soft. He seems to avoid contact. I think he tries to work around blocks that he should be fighting through. I sure don't think I've seen enough for him to supplant Dean or Baun and he got a chance to play edge and they went out and got another a week later. Am I out to lunch ?