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  • OT: Yet ANOTHER potential health epidemic on the horizon...

    Not to be an alarmist but this thing sounds like it can do some serious damage to the world's population if it spreads. Human rights aside, of all the places for this thing to break out China may be the most effective at dealing with it. Sure they have the largest population and therefore the greatest chance of spreading it, but they think nothing of sealing off an entire town to stop the spread of a plague that can kill a healthy adult male in 24 hours. The way it's described as being related to the bubonic plague, this thing makes the swine flu seem like a minor allergy attack!

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    China seals off NW town as plague kills 2nd man


    By GILLIAN WONG, Associated Press Writer
    Monday, August 3, 2009



    (08-03) 10:15 PDT BEIJING, China (AP) --
    China locked down a remote farming town after two people died and 10 more were sickened with pneumonic plague, a lung infection that can kill a human in 24 hours if left untreated.


    Police set up checkpoints around Ziketan in northwestern Qinghai province, where townspeople reached by The Associated Press by phone Monday said the streets were largely deserted and most shops shut.

    Authorities urged anyone who had visited the town of 10,000 people since mid-July and has developed a cough or fever to seek hospital treatment.
    On Sunday, a 37-year-old man identified only as Danzin became the second reported fatality from the outbreak. He lived next door to the first, a 32-year-old herder. The 10 sickened, mostly relatives of the herder, were undergoing isolated treatment in hospital, the local health bureau said.
    The World Health Organization office in China said it was in close contact with Chinese health authorities and that measures taken so far to treat and quarantine sickened people were appropriate. It did not comment on the move to seal off the town.

    "This form of pneumonic plague is probably the least common but the most severe," said WHO's spokeswoman in China, Vivian Tan. "It has a very high fatality rate and generally spreads quite easily. So we're certainly concerned about the situation."
    In Ziketan, authorities have said homes and shops should be disinfected, and residents should wear masks when they go out, said a food seller surnamed Han who runs a stall at the Crystal Alley Market. Around 80 percent of the town's shops were closed on Monday, Han said, and prices of disinfectants and some vegetables have already tripled.

    "People are so scared. There are few people on the streets," Han said by telephone. "There are police guarding the quarantine center at the township hospital but not on the streets."

    According to WHO, pneumonic plague is one of the deadliest infectious diseases, capable of killing humans within 24 hours of infection. It is spread through the air and can be passed from person to person through coughing.

    The Web site of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control says people infected must be given antibiotics within 24 hours of first showing symptoms, while people who have had direct contact with those infected can protect themselves by taking antibiotics for seven days.
    A woman who lives in Ziketan, who refused to give her name when reached by telephone, said county officials distributed flyers and made television and radio announcements on how to prevent infection. The woman said police checkpoints were set up in a 17-mile (28-kilometer) radius around Ziketan and residents were not allowed to leave.

    The situation in Ziketan was stable, said an official surnamed Wang at the local disease control center, who added the measures taken were "scientific, orderly, effective and in accordance with the law."

    Officials refused to give further details about the situation or say how the herder was first infected.

    Pneumonic plague is caused by the same bacteria that occurs in bubonic plague — the Black Death that killed an estimated 25 million people in Europe during the Middle Ages. Bubonic plague is usually transmitted by flea bite and can be treated with antibiotics if diagnosed early.

    A 2006 WHO report from an international meeting on plague cited a Chinese government disease expert as saying that most cases of the plague in China's northwest occur when hunters are contaminated while skinning infected animals. The expert said at the time that due to the region's remoteness, the disease killed more than half the infected people.

    The report also said that since the 1990s, there was a rise in plague cases in humans — from fewer than 10 in the 1980s to nearly 100 cases in 1996 and 254 in 2000. Official statistics posted on the Health Ministry's Web site showed no cases of plague last year and the previous year.
    In 2004, eight villagers in Qinghai died of plague, most of them infected after killing or eating wild marmots, which are relatives of gophers and prairie dogs. Marmots live in the grasslands of China's northwest and Mongolia, where villagers often hunt them for meat.

    WHO spokeswoman Tan said China was no stranger to dealing with the plague.

    "In cases like this, we encourage the authorities to identify cases, to investigate any suspicious symptoms among close contacts and to treat confirmed cases as soon as possible. So far, they have done exactly that," Tan said. "There have been sporadic cases reported around the country in the last few years so the authorities do have the experience to deal with this."


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    Don't worry man. Obama is going to cure it by borrowing 400 Trillion Dollars.
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    • #3
      Great. I quit smoking and start vaping this shit from China, and now tobacco might not kill me but a little China sunshine will.......

      F-it. Somebody pass me a bong.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BIGPHILLY View Post
        Don't worry man. Obama is going to cure it by borrowing 400 Trillion Dollars.

        .......from China! You and I are going to be paying for Chinas health care plan soon enough. My great grand kids are going to still be paying off the Chinese. Maybe it's time to print some more $$$$$ or invite the plague to the white house and drink some beer, that'll make it all better.


        Oooops, there I go again.
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        • #5
          In 2035 my flat tax rate will be 70% at the federal level and I'll have to wait in line 3 hours to get a prescription for Advil.
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          • #6
            I do know a few people who can't afford health insurance these days, who are hoping that they pull off those reforms. I hope for their sake that they do, but I really hope they do things in a smart way, and learn some lessons from whatever they're doing in the UK, France and Canada (or whatever countries already have systems like that).
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            • #7
              Where does it say in the Constitution is that health care is a right. Health care is a service which costs money, if you don't have enough money well your shit out of luck.


              FWIW, I currently don't have health insurance.
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              • #8
                Don't bother Leif. Socialism is here.
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                • #9
                  The problem lief is that you end up allowing the poor to die because they can't afford health care. That's unacceptable to a lot of people (myself included)who don't want to live in a society that thinks so little of the poor as to hide them away and let them die when treatments are available. I won't even get into the desperation they and their families face as they watch a loved one die simply because they are poor. Someone is going to take action at some point - beit the son who holds up a bank to get the money to get his dying Mother treatment - or the politician who tho proposes a requirement that the poor receive treatment at no cost. Either way the rest of society is going to have to deal with situation.

                  BP's head is about to explode but I'll say it anyway - there should be a limit on the profits that insurance companies are allowed to make (to a lesser extent this should also apply to pharacuitical companies). When an insurance company can dictate to a Doctor what treatment someone receives, and bases it solely on how much the proceedure costs and what they are willing to pay it's a serious problem. My Mother-in-Law is dealing with this now. Her Doctor wants to use a common type of radiation in her cancer treatment but the insurance company is refusing it and insisting on an older type that has more side effects and causes more burns than the newer type. Sorry but the Doctor determines the treatment, not the insurance company. Oh and just in case anyone thought the insurance companies were reasonable people, my in-laws have been with this company for a lot of years. Now that they went through cancer treatments they were notified that they are being dropped. How in the hell is that acceptable? We're here for you until you need us and then we drop you? No one will cover thier future treatments because now it's an existing condition to the new companies. They are about to join lief in the uninsured category and it's not by choice. Yeah, this shit needs to be revamped in a BIG way!!
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                  • #10
                    Watch the politics.... please.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jukin View Post
                      The problem lief is that you end up allowing the poor to die because they can't afford health care. That's unacceptable to a lot of people (myself included)who don't want to live in a society that thinks so little of the poor as to hide them away and let them die when treatments are available. I won't even get into the desperation they and their families face as they watch a loved one die simply because they are poor. Someone is going to take action at some point - beit the son who holds up a bank to get the money to get his dying Mother treatment - or the politician who tho proposes a requirement that the poor receive treatment at no cost. Either way the rest of society is going to have to deal with situation.

                      BP's head is about to explode but I'll say it anyway - there should be a limit on the profits that insurance companies are allowed to make (to a lesser extent this should also apply to pharacuitical companies). When an insurance company can dictate to a Doctor what treatment someone receives, and bases it solely on how much the proceedure costs and what they are willing to pay it's a serious problem. My Mother-in-Law is dealing with this now. Her Doctor wants to use a common type of radiation in her cancer treatment but the insurance company is refusing it and insisting on an older type that has more side effects and causes more burns than the newer type. Sorry but the Doctor determines the treatment, not the insurance company. Oh and just in case anyone thought the insurance companies were reasonable people, my in-laws have been with this company for a lot of years. Now that they went through cancer treatments they were notified that they are being dropped. How in the hell is that acceptable? We're here for you until you need us and then we drop you? No one will cover thier future treatments because now it's an existing condition to the new companies. They are about to join lief in the uninsured category and it's not by choice. Yeah, this shit needs to be revamped in a BIG way!!
                      That's what charities/non-profits are for. If someone wants to contribute they are more than welcome, but compulsory contribution is UNAMERICAN.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by leifdawg View Post
                        That's what charities/non-profits are for. If someone ones to contribute they are more than welcome, but compulsory contribution is UNAMERICAN.

                        That's ridiculous! Charities? Really lief? They're be able to handle all the medical procedures needed for the poor? I think allowing Americans to die while the treatment is available simply because they are too poor to afford it is UNAMERICAN.

                        I'll stop the political talk since this thread was never intended to head in this direction.
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                        • #13
                          Stop with the politics. Training camp has started, which means we are in season! Plenty of other stuff to talk about.

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                          • #14
                            lol
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                            • #15
                              If anyone wants to continue this discussion, we can move it to the MISC forum perhaps?
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