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  • Tough loss

    Seemed to be failure all around.

    Offense
    Defense
    ST
    Refs


  • #2
    Mcnabb and Reid, usual culprits.

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    • #3
      Penalties, play selection in key moments (3rd & 1, 4th & 1), funky ball spotting by the refs and overall execution. O-linemen getting beat up doesnt help either. Game plan looked to be sound to me. IMO this isnt so much on McNabb. More Weaver might have worked. BUT that's why they get the big bucks, because they know. I on the other hand, do not.
      Last edited by ThoughtProcess; 11-09-2009, 04:50 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sfphillyfan View Post
        Seemed to be failure all around.

        Offense
        Defense
        ST
        Refs

        http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blo...me-em-all.html

        " Blame 'Em All
        Posted by Derek

        There is a tendency after games like this to focus on one or two key moments, figure out who screwed up those situations, then blame that guy for the loss. That's happening in the open thread right now, with a lot of "this is 100 percent on Andy!" and "how could you blow all those challenges!!!" type stuff.
        I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the same stuff starts coming down on McNabb.

        But if you put this game entirely on one guy or a couple of plays, you're missing the bigger picture, which is that lots and lots of people had a piece in this loss:
        • Sheldon Brown, for a ridiculously poor decision on his blown coverage against Miles Austin. That just isn't a play a veteran should be making. (Although I'm a little annoyed that Collinsworth came out of commercial and made the point about Mikell. That was going to lead the rewind this week.)
        • Donovan McNabb, for rolling out the wild highs and missing guys he shouldn't have been missing.
        • Chris Gocong and Brian Westbrook, for being hurt and forcing lesser players to play big roles (not their fault, I know).
        • Most of the defense, for not being able to make a stand against the Cowboys' repetitive draw-based rushing attack when the Eagles needed a single stop (that's basically the defense's version of not being able to mount a fourth-quarter comeback).
        • The offensive line, for having free rushers coming around to McNabb all game.
        • All the guys who dropped passes.
        • The idiotic matching 15-yard penalties on that drive in the second half, followed by the half the distance low block after the INT.
        • The playcallers for not figuring out how to force the ball into DeSean's hands.
        And that's just off the top of my head...."

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        • #5
          We lost this game, for a variety of reasons. Effort wasn't one of them, so I am not as upset as I might be. Not much burns my ass more than a team that lollygags thru a game playing like they don't really give a damn.

          Just some random Monday morning observations:

          1. Props to the Oline, and Peters in particular for battling thru some adversity and generally doing a good job. Ware and Co got thru a few times, but Donovan had a pretty good piece of time back there in the pocket. I didn't think he would.

          2. Akers had a hell of a game. Here is to hoping that he has one when it might actually do us some good.

          3. Assante made his first nice tackle of the season last night......and he made sure everyone knew about it including the ref. Now, having taken a shot to the head, is he going to be timid to engage??

          4. Donovan, Donovan.....what the hell, man? You were"en fuego" last week. This week it's back to the consistent inconsistency. You frustrate me.

          5. Turnovers.....we can talk about this made block, or that missed pass, or the other poor challenge call......the reason why we lost is quite simple. T.O.'s We did, it cost us, they didn't and they won.
          http://shop.cafepress.com/content/global/img/spacer.gifOK, let's try this again...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ThoughtProcess View Post
            Game plan looked to be sound to me. IMO this isnt so much on McNabb. More Weaver might have worked. BUT that's why they get the big bucks, because they know. I on the other hand, do not.
            The game plan was the same as the one against Oakland...Air Reid thought he could exploit the Dallas secondary. Eagles needed to control the ball. Last week McNabb badly underthrew a TD to Jackson. This week he underthrew a long ball a paid the price. Dallas dared Reid to take his time. Heck on one drive they got close on running plays, then he tries three straight passes that were incomplete and they settled for a field goal.

            A west coast team with all the precision timing short be automatic on short yardage. Not this team. Maybe it is McNabb who just doesn't have the ability to make the first read and release it quickly on the minor. This is evident on third and shorts, and on the inablilty to sustain beat the clock marches.
            Sonny J

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            • #7
              In all fairness, that first pick was on a timing/quick hit over the middle, and McNabb was right on target. Maclin just didn't handle it. Donovan certainly had others misses and misfires.

              The running and short yardage thing befuddles me. The ony time I remember going power run with Weaver on a 3rd and short, we picked it up. Why is that such a rarity? We should have been able to play power ball vs the Cowpies and worn their asses down. The game was close, or we were in the lead for pretty much the whole game. We did some runing last night, but it ialso the timing of when you call runs. And can we can the FRIGGIN WILDEAGLE WITH TDK already??????
              http://shop.cafepress.com/content/global/img/spacer.gifOK, let's try this again...

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              • #8
                Too many mistakes, dumb penalties, dropped passes, missed assignments. Too much risk-taking on the defensive side of the ball. Bad short yardage offense rears its ugly head again. The young linebackers kept running into their fellow defenders.

                Give Dallas credit. They were clearly smarting from last year's whipping and came out and played hard. They did what the Giants could only talk about doing last week --- get one of the Eagle corners to jump a route and then burn them.
                Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                • #9
                  To be fair - we had like 47 rookies on the field last night. They made rookie mistakes (Fokou penalties, Maclin interceptions etc.)

                  Anyway.
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                  • #10
                    Last night was a night where the offensive playcalling really was as bad as everyone says it was. The run was working all night for 4-5 yard gains, and Donovan clearly had the yips after Peters went out (DeMarcus Ware was really abusing Todd Herremans.) So what do we do? Line up shotgun on every play and get McNabb either taking sacks or throwing misfires. The run was easy yardage all night and the passing game was a disaster waiting to happen. The Eagles never trailed by more than a touchdown and they could have been in 3rd and 3 ALL NIGHT if they'd just kept running on 1st down. I know Reid has some bafflers from time to time but you rarely see him turn away from something that is working. I didn't get it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by IMK View Post
                      Last night was a night where the offensive playcalling really was as bad as everyone says it was. The run was working all night for 4-5 yard gains, and Donovan clearly had the yips after Peters went out (DeMarcus Ware was really abusing Todd Herremans.) So what do we do? Line up shotgun on every play and get McNabb either taking sacks or throwing misfires. The run was easy yardage all night and the passing game was a disaster waiting to happen. The Eagles never trailed by more than a touchdown and they could have been in 3rd and 3 ALL NIGHT if they'd just kept running on 1st down. I know Reid has some bafflers from time to time but you rarely see him turn away from something that is working. I didn't get it.

                      This is not new, IMO. Reid frequently treats a small deficit as something much larger and tends to panic and throw even more.
                      Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leonard Tose View Post
                        This is not new, IMO. Reid frequently treats a small deficit as something much larger and tends to panic and throw even more.
                        No, you're right. A seven point deficit seems to make him jumpy. But usually when Reid abandons the run it's because the first few he called didn't work. That wasn't the case last night, it was easy yards all night.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by IMK View Post
                          No, you're right. A seven point deficit seems to make him jumpy. But usually when Reid abandons the run it's because the first few he called didn't work. That wasn't the case last night, it was easy yards all night.
                          The run was working so well. Setting up pass plays...

                          Anyway, stats are being thrown all over today on the radio.

                          Apparently we're something like 1-11-1 in games decided by 7 pts or less.

                          And something like 1-9-1 when decided by 4 or less. <--- verified

                          One of those stats courtesy of sal pal.
                          Last edited by sfphillyfan; 11-09-2009, 06:46 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IMK View Post
                            No, you're right. A seven point deficit seems to make him jumpy. But usually when Reid abandons the run it's because the first few he called didn't work. That wasn't the case last night, it was easy yards all night.

                            Yep. It was pretty much a guaranteed four or five yards every time they handed off. Weaver was hitting the hole hard.

                            But Reid doesn't need much prompting to abandon the run. Any old explanation will do.
                            Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FRESH View Post
                              And can we can the FRIGGIN WILDEAGLE WITH TDK already??????
                              http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,201166

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