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    It was pointed out in another thread that this week's games may make the Eagles three wins look more impressive due to the performance of each of the three defeated teams in week four. IMO it's not as clear cut as that, because I didn't think KC would win. That said, it may have been more of Pittsburgh sleeping on the Eagles than the Eagles being the stronger team. Still, I'll take it!

    http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/20...es-nfl-week-4/

    J. Paunil-

    The Eagles were off yesterday on their bye week, and the Giants don’t play the Vikings until tonight, but here are a few thoughts on how Week 4’s action impacts the Birds:

    1. Philadelphia’s 34-3 win over Pittsburgh looks even more impressive now.

    It wasn’t crazy to predict the Steelers would respond to getting dominated by the Eagles by*coming out angry at home and taking*their attitude out on the Chiefs, but they took it one step further and thrashed*a respected 2-1 team, 43-14.*The Chiefs didn’t score a point until the fourth quarter, while Ben Roethlisberger recorded a nearly perfect passer rating of 152.5.
    The NFL is an unpredictable league, and it’s balanced enough to where inferior teams can pull out surprise wins over heavy favorites, as some may have viewed the Eagles’ victory over the Steelers last week. But after watching Pittsburgh remind everyone why they’re thought of as a Super Bowl contender, it’s tough to not come away with an even more positive view of the Eagles and how that’s the team the Birds dominated (minus Le’Veon Bell,*who ran for 144 yards and added 34 receiving yards in his return yesterday.)
    The Steelers are now averaging 35 points per game against teams not named the Philadelphia Eagles, and it’s a reflection of how much of an equalizer the Birds’ defensive line is. The Eagles’ secondary played much better than the Chiefs’ secondary did against the Steelers, but Big Ben also showed how lethal he is when he isn’t pressured.
    Philadelphia sacked Roethlisberger twice as much as Kansas City did and recorded more than double the amount of quarterback hits, which is partially*why Roethlisberger’s passer rating jumped from 62.4 to 152.5, his touchdown-to-turnover ratio improved from 0-1 to 5-0 and his yards per pass elevated from 5.8 to 11.1 from Week 3 to Week 4.*The Chiefs also turned the ball over twice in the first quarter, which is a subtle reminder of how impressive it is that the Eagles are the only team in the NFL to not*tally a giveaway.

    2. Maybe the NFC East isn’t as bad as we think.

    The division was atrocious last year, and Dallas and Washington weren’t very impressive yesterday, but NFC East teams are now a combined 7-1 in games outside of the division. While*Washington was down at one point in the second half to Cleveland and Dallas beat an uninspiring San Francisco squad,*the four NFC East teams have*the best combined win percentage*(.714) of any division in the NFL. The NFC East is also the only division without a team under .500.
    It’s still early, and the opponents haven’t been top notch, but the lone loss any team has outside of the division is Washington’s Week 1 defeat against the Steelers with about a quarter of the season now in the books. The Giants-Vikings game tonight will tell us more about the NFC East, but between the Eagles’ surprising start and the rest of the division taking care of business against subpar teams, the division may be much improved from a year ago.

    3. The Eagles should be (and are) favored to beat the Lions this week in Detroit, where they lost*45-14 less than a year ago.

    What a difference a year makes. After being embarrassed on Thanksgiving last year, the Eagles are*now expected to return from this season’s trip to Detroit with a victory.*The 1-3 Lions lost their third straight game yesterday as the Bears picked up their first win of the season.
    Brian Hoyer threw for 302 passing yards, a pair of touchdowns and a 120.1 passer rating against Detroit’s defense, while Matthew Stafford threw zero touchdowns and a pair of intercpetions for a 56.8 passer rating.*As we saw in Philadelphia just a week ago, anything can happen in the NFL, but the Lions look like another team the Eagles should be able take care of.

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    Moving forward, what to watch for

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...t_the_Bye.html

    J. McLane-

    1. Outside help: Jordan Matthews has lined up on the outside about a third of the time, but he has essentially remained the Eagles' slot receiver. But the three other receivers - Nelson Agholor, Dorial Green-Beckham and Josh Huff - have accounted for just 35 percent of the Eagles' catches and 27 percent of their receiving yards. Agholor has shown mild improvement in his second season and Green-Beckham is still getting used to the new offense. So there is plenty of time for them to step it up. But the trio has mostly shown an inability to get separation downfield.

    2. Linebacker rotation: Jim Schwartz waited a game before inserting veteran Stephen Tulloch into the defense, but it appears as if he will remain part of a linebacker rotation. He took about 15 percent of the snaps away from middle linebacker Jordan Hicks. It's fair to question the reasoning since Hicks has performed at a high level, but Schwartz could be looking ahead in case he gets injured and toward the dog days of December. But could the coordinator also be planning to further cut into Mychal Kendricks' playing time? Schwartz could have Tulloch play in the middle on base downs and slide Hicks to weak-wide in place of Kendricks.

    3. Smallwood's role: After sitting out most of training camp and the preseason, rookie running back Wendell Smallwood proved against Pittsburgh (17 carries, 79 yards, 1 TD) that he could perform at this level. Smallwood could keep a large role even when Mathews is 100 percent healthy. Doug Pederson said that he would continue to use a four-man rotation with Mathews, Darren Sproles, Kenjon Barner and Smallwood. But it could only be a matter of time before Smallwood is the lead ballcarrier.

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    • #3
      Well we all know that should win and will win is turned upside down every week in football. Detroit will be as fired up as the Eagles were last Sunday. We have to bring our A game and our WRs need to step up if we want to win.
      "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
        Well we all know that should win and will win is turned upside down every week in football. Detroit will be as fired up as the Eagles were last Sunday. We have to bring our A game and our WRs need to step up if we want to win.
        Trap game.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RobLew65 View Post
          Trap game.
          I don't get that vibe, but I can see it playing out that way. Maybe I'm deluded.

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          • #6
            I don't think that we are in any position to consider any game a trap game Rob. Besides I don't think anybody underestimates Detroit's talent. They do manage to find ways to lose games that they have dominated though. I think that when you study their film that the talent jumps out at you and you realize that you will be in a dog fight.
            "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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            • #7
              Games yesterday were frustrating to watch. Dallas gets a gift TD from the Refs on a ridiculous roughing the passer call as well as a punt that was allowed to be returned 15 yards even though the guy was down.
              The Redskins are given possession of the ball even though the Cleveland player comes out of the pile with it. How can that be?
              This is how it happens, the officials in the NFL are horrible. They see things that are not there, they miss things that are. Replay has become the ruling on the field stands vs. getting the ruling right. Its New York covering for the poor officiating.
              Were from Philly F in Philly no one likes us we DON'T CARE!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                I don't think that we are in any position to consider any game a trap game Rob. Besides I don't think anybody underestimates Detroit's talent. They do manage to find ways to lose games that they have dominated though. I think that when you study their film that the talent jumps out at you and you realize that you will be in a dog fight.
                I dont so either 60. But it is hard not to see it that way. Lions stink. You have a division game after that plus a game against probably the best team in the NFC. Overlooking the Lions COULD happen. Hoping that ass whupping took on Thaksgiving day last year is still fresh and they want some redemption

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                • #9
                  We owe the Lions from last years ass kicking. Remember they put up 45 points on us.
                  Were from Philly F in Philly no one likes us we DON'T CARE!

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                  • #10
                    I also see them letting their guard down sometime and the Lion game could very well be it. This team can definitely be 5-0 but every week we see someone lose who shouldn't
                    Wait until next year is a terrible philosophy
                    Hope is not a strategy
                    RIP

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by taz View Post
                      Games yesterday were frustrating to watch. Dallas gets a gift TD from the Refs on a ridiculous roughing the passer call as well as a punt that was allowed to be returned 15 yards even though the guy was down.
                      The Redskins are given possession of the ball even though the Cleveland player comes out of the pile with it. How can that be?
                      This is how it happens, the officials in the NFL are horrible. They see things that are not there, they miss things that are. Replay has become the ruling on the field stands vs. getting the ruling right. Its New York covering for the poor officiating.
                      LOL taz, you should watch college games. Even the review guys can't get things right. I saw a guy get tackled a clear yard before a first down and after watching the review it held up. It was incredible. Some of the officials don't even know the rules. It goes on every game. It's not just the minor conferences, it's the SEC and such too. I was commenting to a friend that they'd actually be better if they didn't have any officials and just let guys do what they wanted it's that bad!
                      "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                        LOL taz, you should watch college games. Even the review guys can't get things right. I saw a guy get tackled a clear yard before a first down and after watching the review it held up. It was incredible. Some of the officials don't even know the rules. It goes on every game. It's not just the minor conferences, it's the SEC and such too. I was commenting to a friend that they'd actually be better if they didn't have any officials and just let guys do what they wanted it's that bad!
                        Oh I see it there to. I just doesn't bother me as much as the Pro game. The NFL should have the best of the best. Right now its the worst of the worst.
                        Were from Philly F in Philly no one likes us we DON'T CARE!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by taz View Post
                          Oh I see it there to. I just doesn't bother me as much as the Pro game. The NFL should have the best of the best. Right now its the worst of the worst.
                          Seeing as though they can't even explain WTF a completed pass is I wouldn't get my hopes up.
                          "Hey Giants, who's your Daddy?"

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