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  • I'm feeling pretty good about this team right now....

    Like all of you guys I was surprised by the Barnett pick. I honestly thought they were going to take Foster at the time. And even though I don't like his off the field issues, I focused on what he brought to the field and wanted them to grab him. But the more I think about it, the more I like the Barnett pick. He doesn't come in with injury issues or off the field concerns. He has solid skills at a position of need. I haven't heard anyone say he is a bad pick, only questions about who was available as a "better value" at 14. Taking him was a safe choice but also a good one.

    We all knew there were too many holes to fill in a single off season, but I think the Eagles have done an excellent job of attacking the two biggest weaknesses we saw last year. They got the very best WR free agent available and added a second receiver who has had a lot of success in a similar system. Those two moves effectively push Mathews down from the #1 receiver to the #3, which isn't intended as a slight to him, but rather an effort to take pressure off of him to make him more effective.

    The draft has been focused on improving the defense. Barnett shows a lot of promise in getting pressure on the QB and with the two CBs they grabbed, they should slow down the passing game and give Graham, Barnett and (hopefully a more motivated) Curry time to get to the QB. Now we need a strong MLB to take away the middle of the field and the defense should be a lot better than the last few years.

    Sure there are still holes to fill... as noted a LB, RB, long term WRs options, another TE to replace the aging Celek etc. but there is time. Are we a better team now than we were in December? No question about it! Are we better than we were last Wednesday? Definitely in the long run, but only moderately in the short term. One thing I'm very happy about is that the Eagles said they were going into the draft looking towards the long term future and not the quick fix needs and they certainly appear to be doing that. If we resign Jefferies and see enough improvement from Matthews in the middle to bring him back, we are going to have a very good core going into 2018. We can add long term players to fill fewer holes next year and continue to build a sustainable team.

    I just want to see improvement in 2017; 10-6 is my goal for them and staying competitive in all the games. If we do that I'll be really excited about the long term future of this team and we can point to this draft as the first real building block for it.
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    I think you are right Juk after thinking about what went down so far. The disappointing part is that we didn't get a starter. After all, we can't expect a 20 year old kid to start at DE. EB also pointed out that they expect Jones to fully recover because they wouldn't have spent such a high pick on him so that's cool. I'm just wondering why other teams didn't think the same thing? I have to admit that I have no idea how you build for the future with free agency these days because you just can't keep players as they progress forever. I'm sure the Birds have a plan so we just have to trust it. I guess are goal this year is to see how well Wentz progresses with our new receivers. I'm guessing that we'll probably keep Smith around now too to see if he can be a decent rotational guy.
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    • #3
      Sidney Jones should help a ton long-term; I doubt he's going to be a major contributor this year though. Missing the entire offseason means he's going to be way, way behind learning-wise once he is ready to play.

      Douglas should help but unless we get lucky with a veteran elsewhere, CB may still be a weak link.

      Most important thing though is that Wentz continues to grow. Hopefully he's got enough weapons to do that (and I'm sure we'll add a decent RB in the draft today).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
        I'm just wondering why other teams didn't think the same thing?
        Maybe they did. It just became a matter of when the possible reward outweighed the risk. For the Eagles, it was their pick. This is a guy that they were obviously very interested in before he got hurt. He plays a position that is the biggest area of need on the team. So, maybe that's a couple of dynamics that other teams in that pick range didn't share. Doesn't matter to me. I like this pick. I know it's the Eagles, and it's really hard to be optimistic with anything, but they might have gotten a steal here.

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        • #5
          Honestly EB nothing happened yesterday to make anybody more optimistic about this year's team. I'd be shocked if we got a major contribution from Barnett. Our top 2 picks most likely help this team much in 2017. I think they both were down the line picks.
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          • #6
            Hmmm 60 you seem to be on an island by yourself with your low opinion of Barnett. Not a single draft or personnel guy that I've looked at shares your rating of him, including myself. To say a DE that had 33 sacks in 3 yrs. in the SEC isn't going to do anything in his rookie year just doesn't hold water to me.
            Stand for the flag you assholes!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zepster View Post
              Hmmm 60 you seem to be on an island by yourself with your low opinion of Barnett. Not a single draft or personnel guy that I've looked at shares your rating of him, including myself. To say a DE that had 33 sacks in 3 yrs. in the SEC isn't going to do anything in his rookie year just doesn't hold water to me.
              Don't forget he's only 20 years old Zep. It will take time for him to take on NFL tackles. I think that he'll get there too but not right away. I was too hard on him yesterday. I might be the hardest guy on this board but I'm also the first guy to admit I'm wrong. That doesn't seem to happen a lot around here either.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                I'm just wondering why other teams didn't think the same thing?
                60. I heard from one of the Dallas writers that they were really high on Barnett and he was their top rated DE. But, they didn't think there was any way to trade up enough to get him.

                They were complaining about having to face the Eagles with 2 players that the Cowboys REALLY wanted in the past, which was Fletcher Cox and Barnett.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pliny View Post
                  60. I heard from one of the Dallas writers that they were really high on Barnett and he was their top rated DE. But, they didn't think there was any way to trade up enough to get him.

                  They were complaining about having to face the Eagles with 2 players that the Cowboys REALLY wanted in the past, which was Fletcher Cox and Barnett.
                  LOL, I was talking about Jones and his injury at #2 pliny!! BTW, I love the wr pick at 4. I saw the kid a couple of times last year and he was great. He made a lot of money for Trubisky.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Eagle60 View Post
                    I'm also the first guy to admit I'm wrong. That doesn't seem to happen a lot around here either.
                    Well 60 it may not happen often around here but I will jump on board with you and admit that you were wrong too. Feel better?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jukin View Post
                      well 60 it may not happen often around here but i will jump on board with you and admit that you were wrong too. Feel better?
                      lol!
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                      • #12
                        I gotta agree with Jukin, it's about time you took ownership for all those goofy mistakes you have made. I'm proud of you for coming forward and admitting it.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                          I gotta agree with Jukin, it's about time you took ownership for all those goofy mistakes you have made. I'm proud of you for coming forward and admitting it.


                          You should take a cue.
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                          • #14
                            You are correct --- And I have in the past admitted when I am wrong --- at least for the 1 or 2 times it has ever happened. (must have been the drugs)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MDFAN View Post
                              You are correct --- And I have in the past admitted when I am wrong --- at least for the 1 or 2 times it has ever happened. (must have been the drugs)
                              No. It's more likely the senility!
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