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    From Donellon's latest article......

    McNabb addressed the perception, festering over the 2 days between Sunday's game and his regular Wednesday podium stint, that he was goofing around when he incurred a 5-yard false-start penalty in the late stages of Sunday's excruciating, 30-24 overtime loss to the Giants.

    "I felt that the rule was when you're under the center, there's no jerking, there's no head movement to try to draw people offsides," he said. "Now, they were moving around on defense. Obviously, we're trying to run the clock down. I'm watching the play clock and I went down as if I was going under the center."

    McNabb then pulled back quickly, not unlike what Peyton Manning does about 30 times a game. But when Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce jumped into the neutral zone, a flag went up.

    "Only one person jumped,

    and that was the linebacker," McNabb said. "I felt that wasn't a penalty, but the referee thought it was."

    The larger issue, though, was McNabb's wide smile after the call. With a 24-14 lead and a little more than 6 minutes remaining - Brian Westbrook's fumble came two plays later - some have suggested that McNabb was not taking the Giants seriously.

    It's an argument that can only be made by those who do not watch him regularly.

    That smile crops up at all kinds of awkward times. Watch tapes of his horrific first half in a playoff game against Green Bay a few years back.

    "It wasn't anything like I was joking or having a good time out there," he said. "I was just trying to see what defense we were going to see in case I had to check into another play."

    "Do you think people misinterpret that smile?" he was asked.

    "I think so, I think so," he said, repeating it for emphasis. "In that situation we had something to smile about, but I wasn't smiling because of the situation. I was getting guys in the right position to make plays."

    It is his way of handling the nerves that by now everyone in the nation is well aware he has.

    It is also an attempt to make those around him feel less uptight.

    Reid's answer minutes before to a similar question was, "I saw that on Monday when you were asking me questions. Today I am seeing the 49ers. We've moved on. We've discussed all that and we are on to the 49ers and I am not going backwards."

    Truth is, he broad-brushed Sunday in his press conference on Monday and was not asked about that particular play then. It would not have mattered. Yesterday, Reid answered all other questions that referred back to Sunday in similar

    "moving-forward" gobbledygook.

    He sounded defensive, guarded and, frankly, insecure -

    attributes some thought might apply to McNabb after his

    hellish season of a year ago.

    http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/15570113.htm
    http://shop.cafepress.com/content/global/img/spacer.gifOK, let's try this again...

  • #2
    And how many complaints have we heard, when the smile was gone, about McNabb 'pouting' on the sideline?

    The guy will never do right in this city.

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    • #3
      The way for Reid to "move on" would have been for him to step up and admit he made at least one crucial mistake...the 4th and one call. What does he have to lose by being a man and taking responsibility. His job is certainly in no jeopardy. It provides some cover for the players and casts him as a "stand up guy".

      Instead, we get his "business as usual", empty non-responses. His hostile, dismissive attitude when questioned regarding an extremely traumatic loss, for team and fans alike, makes me think less of him as a man and, more importantly, as a coach.



      MEMO

      TO: Andy Ried

      FROM: Eagle Fans (Check that!!) One Eagle's Fan

      Hey Andy! Excuse the language but, PLEASE... grow the fuck up!!!!




      .

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tinopuno

        MEMO

        TO: Andy Ried

        FROM: Eagle Fans

        Hey Andy! Excuse the language but, PLEASE... grow the fuck up!!!!

        .
        Speak for yourself. I'm an Eagles fan, and I don't care - at all - what Reid says to the press, at any time, ever.

        Besides, doesn't the guy constantly accept the blame for anything that goes wrong? You know, the whole 'That's on me' thing?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by IMK
          And how many complaints have we heard, when the smile was gone, about McNabb 'pouting' on the sideline?

          The guy will never do right in this city.

          agree completely.
          Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tinopuno
            The way for Reid to "move on" would have been for him to step up and admit he made at least one crucial mistake...the 4th and one call. What does he have to lose by being a man and taking responsibility. His job is certainly in no jeopardy. It provides some cover for the players and casts him as a "stand up guy".

            Instead, we get his "business as usual", empty non-responses. His hostile, dismissive attitude when questioned regarding an extremely traumatic loss, for team and fans alike, makes me think less of him as a man and, more importantly, as a coach.



            MEMO

            TO: Andy Ried

            FROM: Eagle Fans

            Hey Andy! Excuse the language but, PLEASE... grow the fuck up!!!!




            .

            christ allfuckingmighty. why does the coach have to "engage" the fans in some kind of cathartic dialogue? do we really want the coach worrying about babying the feelings of the poor, traumatized fans? isn't it hard enough to win in the NFL without that malarkey? will some of you just grow a set?

            i want Big Red thinking about nothing but this week's gameplan for the 49ers.
            Don't kid yourself Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you cared about!

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            • #7
              People confuse McNabb's grimace with a smile all the time

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              • #8
                Originally posted by IMK
                And how many complaints have we heard, when the smile was gone, about McNabb 'pouting' on the sideline?

                The guy will never do right in this city.
                It is sickening....he is so over-analyzed it is silly...

                Next we will hear he winked in the huddle once and it led to the loss...
                Eliminate distractions, create energy, fear nothing, and attack everything.

                -Andy Reid

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                • #9
                  (On McNabb) It is his way of handling the nerves that by now everyone in the nation is well aware he has.

                  It is also an attempt to make those around him feel less uptight.

                  Reid's answer minutes before to a similar question was, "I saw that on Monday when you were asking me questions. Today I am seeing the 49ers. We've moved on. We've discussed all that and we are on to the 49ers and I am not going backwards."

                  Truth is, he broad-brushed Sunday in his press conference on Monday and was not asked about that particular play then. It would not have mattered. Yesterday, Reid answered all other questions that referred back to Sunday in similar "moving-forward" gobbledygook.

                  He sounded defensive, guarded and, frankly, insecure - attributes some thought might apply to McNabb after his hellish season of a year ago.
                  Donnellon sounds uptight and mad himself, geez. A little too much caffeine that morning?
                  "Philly fans are great....It's the only place where you pull up on the bus and you've got the grandfather, the grandmother, the kids and the grandkids - everybody flicking you off. At other stadiums, they give you the thumbs-down. Here, they give you the middle finger.”
                  — Michael Strahan

                  "No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us, we don’t care, we’re from Philly, F—-ing Philly, No one likes us, we don’t care!”
                  - Jason Kelce with the best championship speech ever

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by IMK
                    Originally posted by tinopuno

                    MEMO

                    TO: Andy Ried

                    FROM: Eagle Fans

                    Hey Andy! Excuse the language but, PLEASE... grow the fuck up!!!!

                    .
                    Speak for yourself. I'm an Eagles fan, and I don't care - at all - what Reid says to the press, at any time, ever.

                    Besides, doesn't the guy constantly accept the blame for anything that goes wrong? You know, the whole 'That's on me' thing?

                    I normally don't care what AR says to the press either and am generally a big supporter of his. As far as his willingness to "accept the blame for anything that goes wrong", to me, that amounts to avoiding accepting responsibility for any SPECIFIC problem. And when AR speaks to the press, many of whom are certified assholes, it is also his only oppurtunity to speak to the fans base.

                    I don't get to hear AR's PCs and can only go by what I read here and in the on-line Philly papers. If my impression, that he treated the loss with his "business as usual attitude" is inaccurate, than it's my bad. If my impression is accurate, than I think he passed on a chance to step out from behind his curtain of meaningless platitudes. This wasn't just ANY loss. For any number of reasons, this was as ENORMOUS game...to win, but especially to blow!

                    BTW,

                    I'll amend my memo, as I don't want to presume to speak for anyone else but me!

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                    • #11
                      The shots that got me were, the "nerves that everyone in the nation is aware he has", and his reference to Reid being defnsive, and insecure.

                      Does everyone really know that Donvan is a nervous nelly? News to me. We've already discussed the juke thing he puled at the line, but taht seems contradictory to a guy who's too UPTIGHT. Actualy just the oposite, maybe a bit too LOOSE.

                      And insecure is not something I would have ever thought to apply to Reid. If anything, he's a bit cocksure for my taste. Amazing how perceptions vary.
                      http://shop.cafepress.com/content/global/img/spacer.gifOK, let's try this again...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IMK



                        Speak for yourself. I'm an Eagles fan, and I don't care - at all - what Reid says to the press, at any time, ever.

                        Besides, doesn't the guy constantly accept the blame for anything that goes wrong? You know, the whole 'That's on me' thing?
                        I'm on board with this. Never have cared much about what Andy sez. And TP, FWIW, I was up in the area after the debacle and saw the pressers, and AR did acknowledge certain things he could have done differently.

                        For myself, ((gets ready to duck)), I had no problem with going for it on 4th and 1(it was actually more like 4th and 1 and a half) IMO, you should have the confidence in your guys to make that (he might not in the future),,, now the play call got compromised, cause the Giants D read it, so it was up to McNabb to check out of it, IMO.

                        But going for it wasn't the problem, not making it was! ( Execution. )

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Leonard Tose
                          Originally posted by IMK
                          And how many complaints have we heard, when the smile was gone, about McNabb 'pouting' on the sideline?

                          The guy will never do right in this city.

                          agree completely.
                          As do I.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ThoughtProcess
                            Originally posted by Leonard Tose
                            Originally posted by IMK
                            And how many complaints have we heard, when the smile was gone, about McNabb 'pouting' on the sideline?

                            The guy will never do right in this city.

                            agree completely.
                            As do I.
                            Me too! Seriously........
                            "Philly fans are great....It's the only place where you pull up on the bus and you've got the grandfather, the grandmother, the kids and the grandkids - everybody flicking you off. At other stadiums, they give you the thumbs-down. Here, they give you the middle finger.”
                            — Michael Strahan

                            "No one likes us, no one likes us, no one likes us, we don’t care, we’re from Philly, F—-ing Philly, No one likes us, we don’t care!”
                            - Jason Kelce with the best championship speech ever

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                            • #15
                              Donnellon and the other hacks who jump on Reid about what he says in his PCs are just pissed because he gives them absolutely nothing to write, except stuff like the above article....and I personally love it.

                              As a fan it was fun listening to Buddy and Ray Rhodes crazy statements. But it's even better watching Reid say nothing just knowing these clowns are wanting so badly for him to come up with something for them to write about, and he wont give it to him.

                              As long as Reid is telling his players whats up and communicating with them properly about things, I dont mind being kept in the dark a little bit.

                              As for the 4th and 1 comment about wanting AR to hold himself accountable....He did. I believe it was his PC on Monday. Someone asked if he regreted any play calls or something like that, and he said the 4th and 1 play, he should of punted. That's not exact quotes, but it was something along those lines.

                              As for Donovan, like others have said...he can't win. If he is smiling, he isn't being serious. If he isn't, he's pouting....That said, I didn't think the article was all that bad, at least in the way in portrayed 5.
                              Theo

                              Bleedin Green in 117!!

                              Trey Wingo is still a geek!!

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